Novel Coronavirus impacts

 9. Definitions and Exemptions.
  a. For purposes of this Order otherwise, individuals are allowed to leave their residence only to perform any of the following “Essential Activities.”
 i.
ii.
To engage in activities or perform tasks essential to their health and safety, or to the health and safety of their family or household members (including, but not limited to, pets), such as, by way of example only and without limitation, obtaining medical supplies or medication, visiting a health care professional, or obtaining supplies they need to work from home. To obtain necessary services or supplies for themselves and their family or household members, or to deliver those services or supplies to others, such as, by way of example only and without limitation, canned food, dry goods, fresh fruits and vegetables, pet supply, fresh meats, fish, and poultry, and any other household consumer products, and products necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences.


 g. For the purposes of this Order, “Essential Businesses” means those same essential critical infrastructure sectors and workers as ordered by the Executive Orders of the Governor of the State of California, and as explained and updated in the list of Essential Critical Infrastructure Workers. In addition, the following identifies Essential Businesses for purposes of this Order:
 i. Healthcare Operations and Essential Infrastructure;
ii. Grocery stores, licensed farmers’ markets, farm and produce stands, supermarkets,
food banks, convenience stores, including liquor stores that sell food, and other establishments engaged in the retail sale of canned food, dry goods, fresh fruits and vegetables, pet supplies, fresh meats, fish, and poultry, and any other household consumer products (such as cleaning and personal care products). This includes stores that sell groceries and also sell other non-grocery products, and products necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences. The businesses included in this subparagraph (ii) include establishments that sell multiple categories of products provided that they sell a significant amount of essential products identified in this subparagraph, such as liquor stores that also sell a significant amount of food;
iii. Agriculture, including but not limited to, food and beverage cultivation, farming; ranching, commercial seaweed harvesting, fishing for food, forestry, livestock and legal cannabis and other medicines;
 

Problem with a clever response like that is that Americans and humans in general have a high proclivity for nasty and unintelligent xenophobic behavior

There’s a bad mix of fear and anger in the air, however careful b Maher is about inserting the caveat that Americans shouldn’t react against Asian Americans they will, and it won’t matter what part of Asia they are descended from

Not a great time for fanning those flames

Problem with a clever response like that is that Americans and humans in general have a high proclivity for nasty and unintelligent xenophobic behavior

There’s a bad mix of fear and anger in the air, however careful b Maher is about inserting the caveat that Americans shouldn’t react against Asian Americans they will, and it won’t matter what part of Asia they are descended from

Not a great time for fanning those flames

True. But the nature in which China treats animals and pretty much all wildlife should be addressed. And to be be frank, its not just china, its the entire  globe. Humans show a distinct entitled or even an elitist mindset when it coms to the globe and our rights. The time to change is now, our lifestyle is unsustainable. The planet gets ravaged while we reap the benefits. The most powerful force is Mother Nature. I think we tend to forget that as a collective society. She'll remind us.

Copy that to da max!

That’s funny as hell

On a more somber note I just got back from the local farmers market

Venders were in a rather desperate state

I talked at length with a farmer from the coast who said their finances are hemorrhaging to the point they’re looking at possibly going belly up

On a more somber note I just got back from the local farmers market

Venders were in a rather desperate state

I talked at length with a farmer from the coast who said their finances are hemorrhaging to the point they’re looking at possibly going belly up

There are a lot of people in that situation. This shut down is going to end a lot of peoples businesses. It will ruin a lot of peoples financial well being. It will ruin a lot of families. Personally I am going on a 4 weeks , maybe more of no income in my household. We will last a while, but if this goes on too long I will be digging deeper to find funds to live. I can live on credit cards for over a year, probably a lot longer than that, but when it comes time to pay it all back that is where this will be bad. There is nothing in place in this state to help out the self employed as of this time. The feds say self employed can get help, but no program has been put in place for that yet. Earliest estimates are end of April to have something in place. What that something is is very unclear/undecided. What the time frame for relief is is undetermined. I can go on and on here.

On a more somber note I just got back from the local farmers market

Venders were in a rather desperate state

I talked at length with a farmer from the coast who said their finances are hemorrhaging to the point they’re looking at possibly going belly up

There are a lot of people in that situation. This shut down is going to end a lot of peoples businesses. It will ruin a lot of peoples financial well being. It will ruin a lot of families. Personally I am going on a 4 weeks , maybe more of no income in my household. We will last a while, but if this goes on too long I will be digging deeper to find funds to live. I can live on credit cards for over a year, probably a lot longer than that, but when it comes time to pay it all back that is where this will be bad. There is nothing in place in this state to help out the self employed as of this time. The feds say self employed can get help, but no program has been put in place for that yet. Earliest estimates are end of April to have something in place. What that something is is very unclear/undecided. What the time frame for relief is is undetermined. I can go on and on here.

I thought I heard that the self employed are eligible for the unemployment benefits.

On a more somber note I just got back from the local farmers market

Venders were in a rather desperate state

I talked at length with a farmer from the coast who said their finances are hemorrhaging to the point they’re looking at possibly going belly up

There are a lot of people in that situation. This shut down is going to end a lot of peoples businesses. It will ruin a lot of peoples financial well being. It will ruin a lot of families. Personally I am going on a 4 weeks , maybe more of no income in my household. We will last a while, but if this goes on too long I will be digging deeper to find funds to live. I can live on credit cards for over a year, probably a lot longer than that, but when it comes time to pay it all back that is where this will be bad. There is nothing in place in this state to help out the self employed as of this time. The feds say self employed can get help, but no program has been put in place for that yet. Earliest estimates are end of April to have something in place. What that something is is very unclear/undecided. What the time frame for relief is is undetermined. I can go on and on here.

I thought I heard that the self employed are eligible for the unemployment benefits.

Did you apply for the EIDL 10k "do not have to repay" relief from SBA?

Rob that sucks!

Hoping we get relief soon buddy!

Bushy

On a more somber note I just got back from the local farmers market

Venders were in a rather desperate state

I talked at length with a farmer from the coast who said their finances are hemorrhaging to the point they’re looking at possibly going belly up

There are a lot of people in that situation. This shut down is going to end a lot of peoples businesses. It will ruin a lot of peoples financial well being. It will ruin a lot of families. Personally I am going on a 4 weeks , maybe more of no income in my household. We will last a while, but if this goes on too long I will be digging deeper to find funds to live. I can live on credit cards for over a year, probably a lot longer than that, but when it comes time to pay it all back that is where this will be bad. There is nothing in place in this state to help out the self employed as of this time. The feds say self employed can get help, but no program has been put in place for that yet. Earliest estimates are end of April to have something in place. What that something is is very unclear/undecided. What the time frame for relief is is undetermined. I can go on and on here.

My job is deemed essential.  I'm busier than normal by quite a bit, though the volume of calls for new intakes is down considerably, the people who are calling are desperate for help and have very serious situations.

Staff is a mess.  Most work from home.  I'm usually alone or just one other person in the office, normally there are 8 or 9 people, plus vendors, client meetings, and all other matter of comings and goings.  I've got a couple that can't effectively work from home because they have small children.  One is getting more money from UI+ than she gets in salary - she makes more staying home than working.

It is alarming to me that the government can decide who is essential and who isn't, and at least in some industries it's seemingly arbitrary.  There are some impending supply chain failures and enforcement is all over the map, even from county to county.  People are very very willing to submit to authoritarian government policies and command economies.  It's a slow moving disaster.

I'm taking most of this week off.  I'm supposed to be on that vacation back east right now, figure I'll get some quarantine home projects done instead and try to take a vacation from the new normal.

I'd seen someone refer to this current social and economic state of affairs as   "The Great Pause".  I kind of like that.

On a more somber note I just got back from the local farmers market

Venders were in a rather desperate state

I talked at length with a farmer from the coast who said their finances are hemorrhaging to the point they’re looking at possibly going belly up

There are a lot of people in that situation. This shut down is going to end a lot of peoples businesses. It will ruin a lot of peoples financial well being. It will ruin a lot of families. Personally I am going on a 4 weeks , maybe more of no income in my household. We will last a while, but if this goes on too long I will be digging deeper to find funds to live. I can live on credit cards for over a year, probably a lot longer than that, but when it comes time to pay it all back that is where this will be bad. There is nothing in place in this state to help out the self employed as of this time. The feds say self employed can get help, but no program has been put in place for that yet. Earliest estimates are end of April to have something in place. What that something is is very unclear/undecided. What the time frame for relief is is undetermined. I can go on and on here.

My job is deemed essential.  I'm busier than normal by quite a bit, though the volume of calls for new intakes is down considerably, the people who are calling are desperate for help and have very serious situations.

Staff is a mess.  Most work from home.  I'm usually alone or just one other person in the office, normally there are 8 or 9 people, plus vendors, client meetings, and all other matter of comings and goings.  I've got a couple that can't effectively work from home because they have small children.  One is getting more money from UI+ than she gets in salary - she makes more staying home than working.

It is alarming to me that the government can decide who is essential and who isn't, and at least in some industries it's seemingly arbitrary.  There are some impending supply chain failures and enforcement is all over the map, even from county to county.  People are very very willing to submit to authoritarian government policies and command economies.  It's a slow moving disaster.

I'm taking most of this week off.  I'm supposed to be on that vacation back east right now, figure I'll get some quarantine home projects done instead and try to take a vacation from the new normal.

I'd seen someone refer to this current social and economic state of affairs as   "The Great Pause".  I kind of like that.

I can see where your coming from.

There`s no template ,advance operating procedure  and or contingency for such an event. Much like the handling of the recent fires here in the fall of 2019, everything it seems the Sonoma County OES did was based on projections from models in a worst case scenario and some of what was learned in the Tubbs Fire in 2017, e.g. the rolling evacuations, and having LEO`s canvass the neighborhoods to announce the evacs.

Sometimes a  full retreat to reorganize, plan and attack maybe whats needed. I doubt anyone in "power" could foresee this event from unfolding and perhaps it`s a learn and go , OJT  situation so to speak.

Taking into consideration activities such as fishing, compensating the self employed etc. were probably not on a list of priorities, it may have been easier for each government agency from township ,city ,county on up to just follow suit  , throw a blanket policy and procedure in place and "worry" about "details" later.

It`s just a thought.. WTH do i know sometimes i cant even make coffee right in the morning as you well know 

IDK ?

 

Speaking of coffee, you should consider it like TP and go hoard it.

I've said often from the very beginning of this thing that there is no playbook.  Mistakes will be made.  Lots of mistakes.  Some will be big, life changing mistakes.

There`s no template ,advance operating procedure  and or contingency for such an event.

Actually there are several, one of the best organized and most accessible can be found at

https://www.moh.gov.sg/

It’s even in English

There`s no template ,advance operating procedure  and or contingency for such an event.

Actually there are several, one of the best organized and most accessible can be found at

https://www.moh.gov.sg/

It’s even in English

So much for singapore having it contained