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Hey... it's not illegal to "chum" the fish 

Hey... it's not illegal to "chum" the fish 

11 years of chumming from a kayak here. 

-Brian G

  It's funny for me to think about this now, but I was in the NAVY for 3 yrs active duty aboard the USS VIRGINIA out of Norfolk VA. The waters off cape Hatteras (S Carolina) is rougher than anything out here on the west coast, and we routinely sailed through them all the time.  I  almost every time after the first hour or so under way, but after that I got my "Sea legs" and wasn't bothered by anything the sea could toss at my ship then.  Today, I'm like a little girl scared to get seasick! I know it'll happen I just don't want it to.  Maybe being 30yrs older has that affect?

Bring yer pokepole!
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I think AbKing still has one with my name on it. 

  It's funny for me to think about this now, but I was in the NAVY for 3 yrs active duty aboard the USS VIRGINIA out of Norfolk VA. The waters off cape Hatteras (S Carolina) is rougher than anything out here on the west coast, and we routinely sailed through them all the time.  I  almost every time after the first hour or so under way, but after that I got my "Sea legs" and wasn't bothered by anything the sea could toss at my ship then.  Today, I'm like a little girl scared to get seasick! I know it'll happen I just don't want it to.  Maybe being 30yrs older has that affect?

You've got to be  joking about Hatteras being rougher than out here. I spent a summer kayaking the entire Outerbanks. I criss-crossed all the inlets near Hatteras including what was an extremely treacherous paddle across the diamond shoals. I rode out a hurricane by kayaking up to Elizabeth city and cutting across the Great dismal swamp to dump out in Norfolk and paddle across the Chesapeake bay bridge to Maryland and then all the way up to the Potomac in Washington DC. It (Outerbanks) is no doubt seasonly a rough water area but come and paddle with me and Abking up here on the Lost coast and we'll show you what rough really is. I won't go into any further as to not scare off anyone but I assure you as a subject matter expert that there is no rougher stretch of Ocean anywhere in the lower 48 as there is off our coast up here. BTW Cape hatteras is in N. Carolina not south

Don't forget to say that it can also be as flat and smooth as piss on plate on a hot day. Thats the north coast. Leaves you amazed. Tons of different variables. But mid-may can spell disaster. High winds and big spring swell.

  Being tossed in rough seas on a 586 foot long ship is slightly different that being tossed on rough seas on a kayak.  Sure big seas will look really big from a kayak, but when they look really big from a naval ship, I gaurentee you don't want to be in them on a kayak.  I'm sure these big seas I'm refering to were seasonal, of the 3 yrs I was in hald that time was underway.  I have photos of White water from a wave covering the forward missel and gun mpount mount on the ship I was on That wave tore the ships bell from its mast!   The seas were so rough during that part of the deployment (Somewhere on the Atlantic)there was a shipwide restriction to remain below decks.  I happend to be on watch so I had to be out in it! 
   As I remember we (The crew)called that entire seaboard "The Va Capes"  from Norfolk down to Cape Hatteras.  It has been almost 30yrs since I've sailed back there, I knew Hatteras was on a carolina somewhere.
I have no doubt that you have some big water up there, but from my experience long ago, the big waters out here can't compete with the stuff on the other coast.  (Except for maybe Mavricks?) My experiences with big water only relate to those I've been on while aboard ship, I can't relate anything to kayaking, as I haven't gone out on the ocean yet in a kayak.
I do hope to change this though this season!

Thanks for telling us about your experience on the water in a ship. My pop was a captain in the US NAVY and I sailed from Yokohama Japan on  an escort to SF. BIG< BIG water. I really dont think anyone would be out in 50 ft seas on a kayak, EVER!

Hans Lindeman crossed from England to the American coast in a klepper sailing kayak in the early 1900's. He went through two Hurricanes and thought he was invincible so he kept trucking towards S.America and got killed by the third Hurricane. Ed Gillet paddled from SoCal to Hawaii in the eighties and was nearly killed by several tropical storms with enormous seas. Jon Turk paddled from Japan across the Aleutians in the Bering sea to Homer Alaska and said he encountered seas the size of mountains during long exposed crossings. So while it is inconceivable that one could paddle in 50 ft seas there is no stretch of ocean that is out of the range of kayaking. I myself plan to paddle in my fishing kayak the entire California coast including Catalina and channel islands from crescent city to the Mex border. Anyone interested in coming along (summer 2011)

Assuming I am still unemployed then, count me in for at least some of the epic Cali voyage.   Sounds like a once in a lifetime chance to really say you saw the ENTIRE California coast.  What an experience.  How many months would it take to do it all?

Hans Lindeman crossed from England to the American coast in a klepper sailing kayak in the early 1900's. He went through two Hurricanes and thought he was invincible so he kept trucking towards S.America and got killed by the third Hurricane. Ed Gillet paddled from SoCal to Hawaii in the eighties and was nearly killed by several tropical storms with enormous seas. Jon Turk paddled from Japan across the Aleutians in the Bering sea to Homer Alaska and said he encountered seas the size of mountains during long exposed crossings. So while it is inconceivable that one could paddle in 50 ft seas there is no stretch of ocean that is out of the range of kayaking. I myself plan to paddle in my fishing kayak the entire California coast including Catalina and channel islands from crescent city to the Mex border. Anyone interested in coming along (summer 2011)

   You make the point that in every sport there are those who push the edge. This is true. So we live our lives vicariously through people who have a bit if insanity moving through their rational thinking process. Good luck on your trip. With your balls it could get lonely out there.

Eric, my apologies. I saw a thread jack coming and I participated. Excuse me. Craig

Eric, my apologies. I saw a thread jack coming and I participated. Excuse me. Craig

Epic threads will have many baby-threadjacks!     No worries, Bro.

I almost threw out my own counterpoint when CGN claimed that Hatteras was rougher than out here, but Hawk came with better info.  It's about averages, and up here the average seas are so much rougher than down where you guys are - it's pretty remarkable...

Enough of that though - we're hoping for that "piss on a plate" as Craig so eloquently put it   .

Hawk - speaking of doing the entire Cali coast in a yak, how many of you have seen "Mike's Kayak Journal" - Google it and spend some time checking out his trek.  It's pretty insane and impressive - fishing kayak would be even more so.

PeteB - I'll bring that pokepole for you and whoever else wanted one (I'll look it up to see who I promised them to).

Some good news from The Tides Inn - here's Julie's email to me today: 

Our Winter Special (three night for the price of two) ends April 30th.  I'd like to extend that office to you and anyone else who will be staying with us.  Let me know as soon as you can if you can come in Thursday or would like to stay Sunday and leave Monday.  I am sending this email to all of you.  We are looking forward to your visit.  ~~Julie

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 - I'll post it up on a separate thread so it's not missed in this book-thread.

 

Hans Lindeman crossed from England to the American coast in a klepper sailing kayak in the early 1900's. He went through two Hurricanes and thought he was invincible so he kept trucking towards S.America and got killed by the third Hurricane. Ed Gillet paddled from SoCal to Hawaii in the eighties and was nearly killed by several tropical storms with enormous seas. Jon Turk paddled from Japan across the Aleutians in the Bering sea to Homer Alaska and said he encountered seas the size of mountains during long exposed crossings. So while it is inconceivable that one could paddle in 50 ft seas there is no stretch of ocean that is out of the range of kayaking. I myself plan to paddle in my fishing kayak the entire California coast including Catalina and channel islands from crescent city to the Mex border. Anyone interested in coming along (summer 2011)

Hmmmm

I myself plan to paddle in my fishing kayak the entire California coast including Catalina and channel islands from crescent city to the Mex border. Anyone interested in coming along (summer 2011)

Hmmmm

That's what I was thinking... Pt Lobos to Piedras Blancas - got to be a 50" ling with your name on it.  This could be fun with some beach party food drops. Always wanted to do the whole Big Sur coast. Bet Peer and Ken would do it.