Attn: Trident owners or test drivers

If you have the Trident or have taken one for a test paddle, Ocean kayak wants your feedback.
What compelled you to buy or not buy one.
We want to know what works and what doesn't.
How do you feel about the hull and deck layout.
 What should be there what shouldn't.
What different would you like to see.
 What else would you like to see in a perfect fishing kayak. 
Do you think there is a market for a high performance fishing kayak something that would cost over $2000.00.
What about seats, or other accessories or features in a fishing kayak.

I have a meeting with OK next month and would like to give them as much input as possible. We will be meeting with kayak anglers from all over the country and want to keep the progress of the kayak design moving forward.
Please respond to me  via Email or PM so that I have all of the responses in one place.
[email protected]

Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi Jim:

        Bring the cost and weight down! Make your profit in Volume. Less is more.
 Bring back the Scupper Pro TW.
                                                                                                              Ernie

For those that think a composite kayak would not be tough enough for our fishing needs take a look at this video.
Necky Composite Video

For those that think a composite kayak would not be tough enough for our fishing needs

I don't think many of us think that a composite isn't tough enough for yak fishing but the cost is just astronomical compared to the roto-molded tupperware. If it was possible to have the price close I think almost everyone would switch to composite. Stronger, lighter, & more durable is a pretty tough combo to beat!

Z

I have not paddled many OK's, but I have noticed ( and heard complaints from others/dealers ) about the

footwells.... The top ridges can dig into the back of your calf after a while. I know this is OK's way of

making Kayaks and I don't have a solution... just giving feedback ....


As far as spending Thousands of $$$$ for a highend FishingKayak, I'm pretty satisfied with whats out there for

$1K,.. But,

A slicked out type Makazi Composite made out more like a Prowler/Scupper might be interesting  ,,,,,,,,,, Danglin

wow !! you mean there's a kayak manufacturer who actually cares ?

What else would you like to see in a perfect fishing kayak

Jim, how about putting a "rod pod" on the original Prowler 15? 

I envision that the next step up in material will be some form of thermoplastic that's tougher than fiberglas, more economical than carbon/kevlar, and more rigid and scratch resistant than our common plastic yaks.  Right now, I can't imagine paying more than $2000 for a fishing kayak.... but then again, I haven't seen one yet that was worth it either.

I envision that the next step up in material will be some form of thermoplastic that's tougher than fiberglas, more economical than carbon/kevlar, and more rigid and scratch resistant than our common plastic yaks.

Check out Eddyline's Carbonlite 2000:

Carbonlite 2000 is a high performance co-extruded plastic laminate that is proprietary to Eddyline Kayaks. It is first formed into a two layer flat sheet with a "muscle" substrate layer and a highly UV resistant exterior layer. Using very high temperatures and vacuum, the sheet is formed into the top and bottom of a kayak.

My Nighthawk 16 was almost impervious to damage--it even fell off my SUV onto the ground without a scratch (my car, on the other hand...). Plus the material is SO much easier to repair than fiberglass/kevlar.

Janice aka "Big J"

I envision that the next step up in material will be some form of thermoplastic that's tougher than fiberglas, more economical than carbon/kevlar, and more rigid and scratch resistant than our common plastic yaks.

Check out Eddyline's Carbonlite 2000:

Carbonlite 2000 is a high performance co-extruded plastic laminate that is proprietary to Eddyline Kayaks. It is first formed into a two layer flat sheet with a "muscle" substrate layer and a highly UV resistant exterior layer. Using very high temperatures and vacuum, the sheet is formed into the top and bottom of a kayak.

My Nighthawk 16 was almost impervious to damage--it even fell off my SUV onto the ground without a scratch (my car, on the other hand...). Plus the material is SO much easier to repair than fiberglass/kevlar.

Janice aka "Big J"

Cool... I heard of Carbonlite and know there are similar materials in the works.  Light weight is an absolute must too!

Fishing usually isn't about boat performance - we spend more time fishing than paddling.  We also need increased stability, which trades directly against speed and weight in the kayak.  To me it doesn't make much sense to use super high-tech expensive materials to build boats that have a low performance shape anyway.

Light weight is an absolute must too!

I agree with Chuck on this issue. I see more and more people getting trailers for their kayaks...and it makes sense cause after a long day of paddling, it's a lot easier sliding a kayak in a trailer instead of trying to lift one overhead to mount on roof tops (the truck guys have it worse).

However, getting a trailer is not cheap and not everyone likes to tow...or simply don't have the storage area for a trailer.

And as we get older, dead lifting a 60-70 pound kayak becomes less desirable 

Let's make a light weight sit on top....but something that does not crack when dropped 

...just my 2 cents.

And as we get older, dead lifting a 60-70 pound kayak becomes less desirable 

Let's make a light weight sit on top....but something that does not crack when dropped 

That just might be my winter project. I'm thinking of building the CLC Sea Island Sport http://www.clcboats.com/boats/seaislandsport.php and wrap it in a kevlar/carbon fiber hybrid cloth to make it bomb proof and light. It says 48 lbs. w/ glass so with carbon/kevlar instead it may get down to 40 or so.

Z

What if we said that carbon fiber was more shark resistant

Besides the Composite high performance question, what about the other questions I posted

For me, I think OK addressed almost all the needs for the yakfisherman. The only things I really wanted to see was the integrated scupper transducer and hatches to easily store rods and make them easily accessible. Other than that a clean deck w/ plenty places for rigging was also high on my list. The only part I see that I wish could be added w/o bringing the price up would be taking the weight down. But this still seems to be an either/or situation.

Z