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Topic: Scopolamine  (Read 8955 times)

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Different things work for different people.
If I do a somersault on the floor I'm done for the day.
Diving I have to take Dramamine.
Mild boating conditions same thing.
Kayaking, even in the worst conditions I need nothing. Go figure.
The first Islander trip both Becky and I got the Scope patches.
Put them on the day before and didn't notice any side effects.
Decided to grab a margarita. We both finished ours and felt parched.
We ordered another, still thirsty as hell. This cycle continued until one of us (Becky)
suggested we switch to water. Good decision as we were both fairly lit.
Got back to the hotel and were still thirsty and could not figure out why.
The next day, still thirsty, we mentioned it to one of our friends on the trip.
"It's the patches!"
Well shit, that makes sense.
The patches are the only thing that work for me in really rough seas or really long trips on a boat.
Never noticed any other side effects.
Disclaimer: The margaritas may have hidden them.



 
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piski

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Some people can chum and then feel better. Personally, I detest puking and will avoid it at nearly any cost.
The Scop patch works for me. It makes me loopy (or more so than usual) but it's worth it to me.

One time I had 3 or 4 patches on at once and watched pink elephants frolic with the whales & dolphins. Then a bug-eyed fish named Mr Limpet stopped by to tell me that was a really bad idea.  Best to stick closely to the Rx directions.

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I am prone to seasickness. No drug available in the US that is over the counter works for me. In fact scopolamine patches don't work for me since the drug does not seem to seep through my skin for some reason. Scopace did work wonders when it was available. But what I've found to be a good alternative to scopace is Kwells that is available OTC in places like UK or Australia (it's actually the same drug). You can get it off ebay and isn't too expensive.


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I have tried everything possible....you name it I tried it lol I even did the   Relief band (it gently shocks you). It’s a watch that shocks your nerve. Lol it actually works last season. Then this season I used it and the internal got salt in it...not good. Wore it and it shock the heck out of me lol 😂

Tried kswell over the weekend, it works awesome. No side effect except a little dry mouth but that’s good since I need to hydrate myself more on the water.

Just make sure to order it in advanced!! Took close to 2 months ordering from AUS!! I order 6 packs of it. If someone need it on the water let me know. It supposedly act within 30 mins.



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Last year I requested a prescription of Transderm patches from my Kaiser doctor.  I think I paid $20 for 10 patches and they last 3 days per application.  Works for me because without them, I usually get seasick. 

Good advice from Dale, I have a couple friends the patch causes side effects on them.

Geez I was paying $15 per patch from Kaiser last year, expensive. I've had very little effects with Scopalamine and it works well for me, dramamine destroys me for 2 days might as well be in a coma. Been out on many dive boats and only once had an issue with seasickness but on the kayak I get it something dreadful, it really surprised me when I got seasick and now I get it every time on the yak.


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I have tried everything possible....you name it I tried it lol I even did the   Relief band (it gently shocks you). It’s a watch that shocks your nerve. Lol it actually works last season. Then this season I used it and the internal got salt in it...not good. Wore it and it shock the heck out of me lol 😂

Tried kswell over the weekend, it works awesome. No side effect except a little dry mouth but that’s good since I need to hydrate myself more on the water.

Just make sure to order it in advanced!! Took close to 2 months ordering from AUS!! I order 6 packs of it. If someone need it on the water let me know. It supposedly act within 30 mins.
You catching all those hogs on meds?  ..... legendary indeed .....

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I have tried everything possible....you name it I tried it lol I even did the   Relief band (it gently shocks you). It’s a watch that shocks your nerve. Lol it actually works last season. Then this season I used it and the internal got salt in it...not good. Wore it and it shock the heck out of me lol 😂

Tried kswell over the weekend, it works awesome. No side effect except a little dry mouth but that’s good since I need to hydrate myself more on the water.

Just make sure to order it in advanced!! Took close to 2 months ordering from AUS!! I order 6 packs of it. If someone need it on the water let me know. It supposedly act within 30 mins.

chrome fever man chrome fever lol
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li-orca

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Reporting on my Scopolamine patch:
I put it on at 10pm the night before. It’s the first time ever I’m using Scopolamine. Slept pretty good, and I normally wake up naturally around 6ish am, but this time slept until 9am. I get out of bed and feel dizzy. Can walk, but not 100% in control. Then I realize that the patch is interfering with my fine motor skills and I can hardly read small letters on my phone. Too blurry. Can see things 3ft away better.
I decided not to go fishing.
Then I took the patch off at around 10am. Went back to bed and woke up at 3pm. That’s really not normal for me. Dizziness went away when I woke up. Vision was still blurry but slowly improving. Following day at 7am I’m back to myself. All side effects are gone.
Will have to try something else  :smt010
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Reporting on my Scopolamine patch:
I put it on at 10pm the night before. It’s the first time ever I’m using Scopolamine. Slept pretty good, and I normally wake up naturally around 6ish am, but this time slept until 9am. I get out of bed and feel dizzy. Can walk, but not 100% in control. Then I realize that the patch is interfering with my fine motor skills and I can hardly read small letters on my phone. Too blurry. Can see things 3ft away better.
I decided not to go fishing.
Then I took the patch off at around 10am. Went back to bed and woke up at 3pm. That’s really not normal for me. Dizziness went away when I woke up. Vision was still blurry but slowly improving. Following day at 7am I’m back to myself. All side effects are gone.
Will have to try something else  :smt010
Thanks for the report.  Way to take one for the team. 

I've read so much about being seasick that for me I've learned what works.  Exposure does, over time, familiarize the body with the conditions, so get out often.  Dress appropriately for immersion yet not restricting, where circulation and overheating beyond what is healthy for me to enjoy my day.

I keep my head up when tying knots and dealing with anything technical or mechanical.  I do not stare down at my kayak for more than several seconds at a time when completing a task.  I take a breath and look up until I am psyched enough to continue the task at hand.  I try to pre-tie all my stuff and have easy terminal tackle to switch out.

Apparently something in Coca Cola can settle the symptoms and/or strong ginger ale.  Vomiting can help.  At least it has motivated me to get back to my launch after I've launched my lunch.  Before vomiting I've wanted to die and quit kayaking and fall into the ocean and slowly drift into bliss.  Creating the right diet for fishing day helps.  I've had to figure that out.  I drink a less potent cup of coffee.  PB and J, other carbs and whole proteins, cold steak, turkey, non acidic stuff.  I've gotta eat something. 

Stay water weary...I drink water even when I do not have the thirst.  Dry mouth is remedied by hard candies...I like jolly ranchers as everyone knows...you want one?   :smt005

I'm not a true believer in mind over matter but in this realm, self motivation and serious psyching out my body becomes a victory over time until exposure familiarizes my body with the sea's dreaded sway.  I also assist psyching myself out by taking 1/2-3/4 of a 25mg costco version of meclazine. 

Consider getting out fully psyched with no medication and tell that ocean what's up "ish", in all humility of course.  I have had victories on the ocean in certain conditions with no medication.  Get pumped to kick your body's aversion to the sway and catch fish like an orca!  :smt006

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I’ve used scopace pills (compounded) for a number of years with great results minus the obvious side effects (dry mouth, heartburn). The patch are more expensive and I only use them on 3 day trips out of San Diego. Dramamine destroyed me for 2 days. I was using Bonine (meclizine) with mixed results, but I was getting very sleepy otw the last time I used it. They have a non drowsy version (ginger being the main ingredient) and it has worked for me great. Not sure if it’s because it’s a great medication or just after 10 years of kayaking that I’m finally getting my sea legs. Give it a try, it may or may not work for you. All about trial and error


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Haha!
Thanks for advice and motivation.
I’ll just have to keep trying. And I think you’re right about finding not just the right med, but also the right diet and kayak fishing procedures.
It’s also amazing that I never had motion sickness in my life (I typed on my laptop while on ferries, airplanes, trains, buses, cars, you name it.)
And yet I know at least a few kayakers who easily get motion sickness when traveling, but not on a kayak. Go figure it out..
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I took Bonine and one of many side effects of claustrophobia/anxiety so bad from it I had to get out of boat 30 footer when I was sleeping in it. I bought  the relief band the electric model turned it up to high and tried it on shocked the hell out of me like 110 volt shock. Turned it down to low and it was managable but noticeable. I have not tried it on water yet that is next week will give full report. I have good reports from some other people I know who have this model shock collar.


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Sometimes if i'm on a boat that's jogging through rough water and I'm starting to feel it, I'll imagine I'm snowboarding or something.  Helps me to focus on "surfing" the ride and trying to keep the flow good instead of on letting the queazies take over. Prefer not taking pills if i can avoid it.


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...or maybe rather like chopping it up  :glasses13:


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One time I ... watched pink elephants frolic with the whales & dolphins. Then a bug-eyed fish named Mr Limpet stopped by ...

That's unusual? It sound like just a normal day on the water for me...
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