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Topic: Social media reporting / postings  (Read 5956 times)

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yakyakyak

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Youtube, facebook, instagram, snap, NCKA, other forums.  It's the internet age and everybody does it, so it's the new norm.  I do believe the ocean is big and the bite is still up to the fish.

This is completely true, but if you really look at it, some of these kayak anglers with a large following on Youtube also should have better discretion about pointing out spots.  I'm not saying all these locations are supposed to be kept secret, but until recently, some of these spots were kept on the down low among the kayak anglers.  You don't necessarily have to point out the exact location, some people just provide general area, such as Marin, San Mateo Coast, Monterey, etc which is fine.  There is nothing ok about blowing up some of these spots on youtube just for the sake of getting more views/likes/followers.  Some people post to share, some people just post to get views/likes/followers....there's an actual difference.  I won't mention names because some of you snowflakes can't handle my foul language or rat me our for attacking a member, but you know who you dudes are.   
Agree with sharing info to help friends and small community to catch fish.
Over sharing on the internet crowd won’t end well.

No arguments Chet & Smoke and to a certain extent, I agree.   What you both said are just simply the facts.  But it is just the new life reality, the internet is meant to be viewed and shared.  I am talking about all platforms here, NCKA or otherwise. 

We all look for reports to better educate us where to go to save time and effort.  And there is no doubt that we all enjoy any reports that we can get.  Your report participation is a social obligation especially if you benefit from any report.  I personally like the Coast Side mentality (share the co-ordinate), but that's just me and Coast Side is paying members only.



So what do we do?  Blow up fishing spots (aka full report), report with retracted information, private messages, circle of friends only, or hybrid?


I think the answer is hybrid and perhaps some discretion is a good idea.  Let me just state the obvious here, nobody had suggested any rule social media posting and of course anybody can do whatever he/she wants.  So, perhaps we can ask the public reports to just include general area and have discretion on the specifics of the spots?



In any case, I do think that bashing our own members publicly is not the way to go. 



« Last Edit: June 17, 2020, 09:35:39 AM by yakyakyak »
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My opinion on fishing reports is that reporting where you launched and what you caught (with photos/video of your catch if you have them) are always good plus a little bit on the overall experience, but the exact location of the catch is not needed.  Launched from ARW and caught a butt in 50 fw using live bait, tide was ripping and the wind was up so made for some gnarly conditions but worth it just to get out ...... should be sufficient.  Yes, some want to know the exact location, but if they want that,  then they should develop some friendships in the community and head out with them instead of stalking the internet.  Just my opinion of what this forum and community are all about for me.  (Unless there is a winter thread, then it just gets weird)
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Seems like opinions and preferences against social media posting and naming locations have been emphatically and thoroughly expressed. I’m sure the message has been heard; heck I’m sure everyone has understood what they were doing all along. People are going to do what they want on YouTube, and there are incentives beyond feeling cool that your vids are up that are sure to keep it going. The cats have been emancipated from their bags, so to speak. I get the frustration.

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What I find interesting with the youtubers is they still post videos even when nothing eventful happens on their trip.  Its all about the clicks, the clicks.. :smt005
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What I find interesting with the youtubers is they still post videos even when nothing eventful happens on their trip.  Its all about the clicks, the clicks.. :smt005
Sadly the clicks are rewarded, hence the reason there pushing so hard.


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What I find interesting with the youtubers is they still post videos even when nothing eventful happens on their trip.  Its all about the clicks, the clicks.. :smt005
Sadly the clicks are rewarded, hence the reason there pushing so hard.

Also sell their merchandise and promote their sponsors. 
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Fishcomb

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How the hell did this turn into another thread? :smt044

In the fishing report subforum too. :smt044


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Giving the launch location is almost the same as giving the exact spot. If one is fishing out of say, Bolinas, and they catch a limit of halibut in 30 feet of water (and then blow it up on YouTube and piss off all the locals), the fishing location is pretty obvious.

On the other hand, reporting that you caught a limit of halibut in 30 FOW without giving the launch location would still be valuable in that it tells us the halibut are around, and now it's up to us to find them. Too much info is a bad thing. Nothing good comes from over-posting online. Just crowds.

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How the hell did this turn into another thread? :smt044

In the fishing report subforum too. :smt044
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Fishcomb

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What I find interesting with the youtubers is they still post videos even when nothing eventful happens on their trip.  Its all about the clicks, the clicks.. :smt005
Sadly the clicks are rewarded, hence the reason there pushing so hard.

Also sell their merchandise and promote their sponsors.
don't forget about the Amazon Affiliate program.

 You will see people post "reports" here and it would be a link to either a youtube (with links on the body to buy stuff (where they make monies)) or blog site that has google ad-sense/amazon links to make the cheddar. Gotta detour the money making from NCKA  :smt044


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How the hell did this turn into another thread? :smt044

In the fishing report subforum too. :smt044

Because, we need to keep beating a dead horse and discuss why its bleeding to death.  Now lets kick it one more time!   :smt044
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Giving the launch location is almost the same as giving the exact spot. If one is fishing out of say, Bolinas, and they catch a limit of halibut in 30 feet of water (and then blow it up on YouTube and piss off all the locals), the fishing location is pretty obvious.

On the other hand, reporting that you caught a limit of halibut in 30 FOW without giving the launch location would still be valuable in that it tells us the halibut are around, and now it's up to us to find them. Too much info is a bad thing. Nothing good comes from over-posting online. Just crowds.

The dudes who blew up some of those spots know exactly what they were doing.  In their defense, they just spew this bs about how its the ocean and everyone knows it, but thats only partially true. 

For some its a means for money, for others its just simply the feeling of being liked by random strangers on the internet that like your video and blow you on youtube....yeah, you know who you are.   
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Fishcomb

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How the hell did this turn into another thread? :smt044

In the fishing report subforum too. :smt044

Because, we need to keep beating a dead horse and discuss why its bleeding to death.  Now lets kick it one more time!   :smt044
sounds more like we got some butt games going on here..



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The dudes who blew up some of those spots know exactly what they were doing.  In their defense, they just spew this bs about how its the ocean and everyone knows it, but thats only partially true. 

For some its a means for money, for others its just simply the feeling of being liked by random strangers on the internet that like your video and blow you through youtube....yeah, you know who you are.

It's not about the money.  Very few people are making any money to speak of on this, certainly not worth the time invested in it.

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