OK to travel for fishing?...

Where do you stand?

Do you think that states north of us closed this because they don't like fishing?  I think they closed it because they recognized that some people are traveling and potentially bringing contagion to other regions.  Even just traveling around is hurting the effectiveness of SIP because people get gas/spread germs, get food/spread germs, get covid unknowingly/take home germs...

When did your "right to fish" exceed the community's right to do the hard work of saving lives?

I hope it's very clear where I stand.

I'll wait before I put in my $0.02.  Let's just let this go organically without steering from strong personalities until page 3 or so, just to make it interesting.

In case it isn't obvious, abking and I don't see exactly eye to eye on the subject.

Vote then.

I think this is a little bit more than a yes or no question.

What are you considering travel?

Tomales and SF bay are both out of my county, but if I get a free day before some sort of Marshall Law sets in then I won't have a problem executing a solo ninja mission. I won't stop anywhere for bait, will get gas at my local station, and might hit up my local Chic-fil-A on the way back. I see no problem with this.

Would I travel to Shelter Cove, stay at a hotel, hit up all of the local grocery stores looking for my favorite beer, stop at any of the bait shops that are open, and have OTW safety meetings with other fisherman? No, I wouldn't.

Is one hour drive any particular direction considered local?

Watch Sonny's video before you vote. It ells you how you die, but it also quotes numbers, since it was made 4 days ago, US cases have tripled.

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=91437.0

I'm lucky enough to live in Pacific Grove, so diving (spearfishing) locally means I leave my house with my gear, get in the car, drive to a relatively remote section of beach, put on gear, and hop in water WAY away from everyone else.

However, those that are travelling far, getting gas, dining out, hanging out in close proximity before or after the fishing session, etc... I do not agree with.

I am peripherally involved in the medical community and in contact with several well-informed medical professionals who do not give a shit about politics. I am fine with staying home for a few weeks. I worry about carrying virus to others at the gas station, coffee shop and grocery store on the fishing trip. What's a couple of weeks in the grand scheme of things? CLEARLY those countries who strictly enforce shelter in place are ahead of the game to some degree!

I'm lucky enough to live in Pacific Grove, so diving (spearfishing) locally means I leave my house with my gear, get in the car, drive to a relatively remote section of beach, put on gear, and hop in water WAY away from everyone else.

However, those that are travelling far, getting gas, dining out, hanging out in close proximity before or after the fishing session, etc... I do not agree with.

I went diving near my house, and it felt great to get some fresh fish and exercise.  What didn’t feel great was realizing that it’s possible that I’m encouraging others to do something like it where they’ll travel through other communities to execute it.

I’m done going fishing unless my family’s health depends on it.  Right now everyone’s family’s health is reliant on everyone to do the right thing.   

Pat Pickerell - thank you. 

I'm gonna stay home, stay put, otherwise comply....

I initially said yes, but have changed my mind. If everyone gives themself a pass "just this once" then where do we stand? This is hardly a good time of year to fish anyway. I say everyone behave, stay home as advised and maybe, just maybe, we can flatten the curve enough to have restrictions lifted by June or July.

What didn’t feel great was realizing that it’s possible that I’m encouraging others to do something like it where they’ll travel through other communities to execute it.

Totally agree. If divers and fishermen were suiting up at every turn out along the highway, it might entice others to do the same, and it would make us all look irresponsible at the same time, possibly resulting in tighter restrictions.

That video is good/not so good

Cases multiplying probably has more to do with getting groceries than anything else we do right now

As I said in some other posts I’ve been spending most of my shifts lately in the covid dedicated units and I feel safer there than on my grocery runs

One important distinction he muddies up is between whether this is contact/droplet(somebody coughs or sneezes on you or you pick it up on your hands) or airborne infection(drifting in the air) He’s saying it’s airborne but it isn’t clear yet from the studies, and even if it is it doesn’t mean you get it riding in a car or being out in the fresh air

In the hospital environment corona was treated until now as contact/droplet, we are currently playing it very safe with airborne precautions

To put it in perspective TB is airborne, meaning youre most likely to get it if you’re trapped in enclosed space with air recirculating

I was thinking about getting out for some surf casting tonight if anybody has some pointers

I’ve fished stripers from the back of the break but never from the beach