2015 AOTY/DOTY suggestions

Just lake Naciemento. Lots of different species there.

You already have Pinto Lake 

But u dont say anything about adding oregon when thats not even Cal waters? Lol

If the idea is to bring more people into the competition by expanding the area covered, who gives a rat if its in "Cal waters"?  As pointed out, SLO is closer to Mexico than to Oregon, so its hardly "Nor Cal".  In addition, you are advocating a pretty broad expansion of species by going that far south.  Going north of the CA border for a whole 10 miles doesn't add any new species but it makes the field a bit more level by giving us far northern guys more than 5 months to fish for RCG without having to travel 4 hours+ each way.

All I'm suggesting is that if the southern guys are thrown a bone with lake nacimiento it would be fair to throw us one too since your RCG season is damn near twice as long as ours plus you have broad freshwater options that we do not have here and have to travel the 3.5 hours to clear lake or shasta anyway.

Its in the interest of fairness.

I bairly live in the boundary line an drive 2-3hours every time i fish so 4hours couple times a year aint bad considering. Think ill do a road log for next year to see how much fuel i waste chasing the bend!

Nacimiento makes sense for Monterey county people, as does a portion of Oregon, in fairness to the extreme NorCal friends.

But u dont say anything about adding oregon when thats not even Cal waters? Lol

If the idea is to bring more people into the competition by expanding the area covered, who gives a rat if its in "Cal waters"?  As pointed out, SLO is closer to Mexico than to Oregon, so its hardly "Nor Cal".  In addition, you are advocating a pretty broad expansion of species by going that far south.  Going north of the CA border for a whole 10 miles doesn't add any new species but it makes the field a bit more level by giving us far northern guys more than 5 months to fish for RCG without having to travel 4 hours+ each way.

All I'm suggesting is that if the southern guys are thrown a bone with lake nacimiento it would be fair to throw us one too since your RCG season is damn near twice as long as ours plus you have broad freshwater options that we do not have here and have to travel the 3.5 hours to clear lake or shasta anyway.

Its in the interest of fairness.

It takes me 4 hours to get to the coast, so how do I benefit from expansion? If everyone gets something they want it will get so complicated thg this whole thing will be a big fn mess leave it alone.

But u dont say anything about adding oregon when thats not even Cal waters? Lol

If the idea is to bring more people into the competition by expanding the area covered, who gives a rat if its in "Cal waters"?  As pointed out, SLO is closer to Mexico than to Oregon, so its hardly "Nor Cal".  In addition, you are advocating a pretty broad expansion of species by going that far south.  Going north of the CA border for a whole 10 miles doesn't add any new species but it makes the field a bit more level by giving us far northern guys more than 5 months to fish for RCG without having to travel 4 hours+ each way.

All I'm suggesting is that if the southern guys are thrown a bone with lake nacimiento it would be fair to throw us one too since your RCG season is damn near twice as long as ours plus you have broad freshwater options that we do not have here and have to travel the 3.5 hours to clear lake or shasta anyway.

Its in the interest of fairness.

It takes me 4 hours to get to the coast, so how do I benefit from expansion? If everyone gets something they want it will get so complicated thg this whole thing will be a big fn mess leave it alone.

The more we talk about it the more I am leaning toward leaving it alone.

btw crash, why didn't you post any groundfish this year?

But u dont say anything about adding oregon when thats not even Cal waters? Lol

If the idea is to bring more people into the competition by expanding the area covered, who gives a rat if its in "Cal waters"?  As pointed out, SLO is closer to Mexico than to Oregon, so its hardly "Nor Cal".  In addition, you are advocating a pretty broad expansion of species by going that far south.  Going north of the CA border for a whole 10 miles doesn't add any new species but it makes the field a bit more level by giving us far northern guys more than 5 months to fish for RCG without having to travel 4 hours+ each way.

All I'm suggesting is that if the southern guys are thrown a bone with lake nacimiento it would be fair to throw us one too since your RCG season is damn near twice as long as ours plus you have broad freshwater options that we do not have here and have to travel the 3.5 hours to clear lake or shasta anyway.

Its in the interest of fairness.

It takes me 4 hours to get to the coast, so how do I benefit from expansion? If everyone gets something they want it will get so complicated thg this whole thing will be a big fn mess leave it alone.

The more we talk about it the more I am leaning toward leaving it alone.

+1.

Fwiw guys, the committee is considering, discussing and voting on all these suggestions and when we have the final rules for 2015 agreed upon we will post em up.

 

Sincerely,

Jim

btw crash, why didn't you post any groundfish this year?

I got way too busy with work and out of state family obligations, and didn't fish very much.  When I did fish, I simply forgot to post my pictures within the time frame allowed.

Why are there even county boundaries?

Why are there even county boundaries?

So that county governments know where their jurisdiction ends. 

I mean for aoty lol

If you look at a map of CA counties, there is a perfect lateral line formed along the southern borders of Monterey, Kings, Tulare, and Inyo counties. Here's a map: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/ca-out8.gif

Ya i noticed that. Still dont understand the need for a county boundery for the tourny tho.

Arbitrary lines are better when they are straight though. They just appear less arbitrary that way.

Ya i noticed that. Still dont understand the need for a county boundery for the tourny tho.

Unless I'm not understanding how you are wanting to expand/remove county boundaries, it's probably to stop people from entering like, a 100# Halibut caught in Alaska off a Kayak