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Topic: GoPro Release Videos at GS7  (Read 5303 times)

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Eric does not need to have a predetermined contingency plan for each and every single conceivable abnormality. This type of thing is in his sole discretion to make what I'm sure will be an appropriate resolution to whatever actual situation arises.

He does not issue advisory opinions for every contingency. NO.

He is far too busy for that.
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Good question and I'm not sure the answer. Hopefully we never have to cross that bridge. But my initial reaction is public ridicule would be justified. Regardless of if they get DQ'd or not.
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Eric does not need to have a predetermined contingency plan for each and every single conceivable abnormality. This type of thing is in his sole discretion to make what I'm sure will be an appropriate resolution to whatever actual situation arises.

He does not issue advisory opinions for every contingency. NO.

He is far too busy for that.

Gee Crash, you sound upset. It was a question. Are we now not allowed to ask questions? It would seem way wiser to ask them now instead of game day. Right? Right?
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Eric does not need to have a predetermined contingency plan for each and every single conceivable abnormality. This type of thing is in his sole discretion to make what I'm sure will be an appropriate resolution to whatever actual situation arises.

He does not issue advisory opinions for every contingency. NO.

He is far too busy for that.

Crash,

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Eric does not need to have a predetermined contingency plan for each and every single conceivable abnormality. This type of thing is in his sole discretion to make what I'm sure will be an appropriate resolution to whatever actual situation arises.

He does not issue advisory opinions for every contingency. NO.

He is far too busy for that.

Gee Crash, you sound upset. It was a question. Are we now not allowed to ask questions? KMA

Not upset, just helping Eric out. He is busy like you wouldn't believe with this tournament. You can imagine how this could continue to play out on completely hypothetical lines.

What if the mouth on the fish is open?  Will there be a point deduction?  A length deduction?  Disqualification?  If the fish isn't allowed can I use a smaller retained fish?  Can I have the points for the length in the video without the bonus?

Ad nauseum.  I trust he will handle whatever actually comes up fairly and to the satisfaction of everyone's sensibilities.
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Since I'm planning on catching such monster sized fish the release video is really no concern to me. I mean, 1st place is 1st place.  :smt044
I'm merely posing possible scenarios that may not have been considered so things will go smoothly for all.
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Eric does not need to have a predetermined contingency plan for each and every single conceivable abnormality. This type of thing is in his sole discretion to make what I'm sure will be an appropriate resolution to whatever actual situation arises.

He does not issue advisory opinions for every contingency. NO.

He is far too busy for that.

Crash,

Can I hire you for AOTY?  I need a HELL NO man.

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I run a big kayak fishing tournament. I know the stress. So less stress the better time you have. Comprende amigo? BTW all your questions that you just wrote down are valid. Ad nauseum? I think not!
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I run a big kayak fishing tournament. I know the stress. So less stress the better time you have. Comprende amigo? BTW all your questions that you just wrote down are valid. Ad nauseum? I think not!

Of course they are valid. So was yours. So was tote's.

That's the point.

I can come up with 50 more if you like.
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That's great then! Maybe we could have a question and answer thread for those who have questions on retention and what's acceptable for the fishes position.
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Only one question can I have my new jackson kayak delivered or do I have to take it with me after I win this mutha. Lol
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Only one question can I have my new jackson kayak delivered or do I have to take it with me after I win this mutha. Lol

Strap it to my roof and I promise I'll deliver it to you!  ;)


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I just had the most screwed up, busy, crazy day at work where I had a major "bendo" confrontation with my boss...   :smt009  I'm pretty fried.

Anyway, I appreciate the work you guys are doing on this, and the questions are fine. 

Doug / Crash is my NO man - please don't expect him to back off of that, and don't take it personally.

Thank you, Doug!   :smt001

As for scoring your card wrong, the idea is that if you have 4 or more species you'll go through official verification, and if that includes a release video viewing we'll do our best to do it right there at check-in when you are there the first time.  If you have 3 or less species you'll go through check-in with the help of a tournament official.  ALL participants will have their scorecard either filled out by tournament staff or verified through a process where tournament staff sees you measure and assists with the scoring compilation.  I'm not too worried about that - I have lots of helpers lined up, and we'll create a well oiled machine for getting people checked in AT check-in.  It's only the GoPro vids I'm concerned about, and that's why I started this thread.  I think the ideas that have surfaced so far are great ones, and I thank everyone for participating in the discussion. 

I have more to say about the overall atmosphere around the video release standard, but I have to take my kid to the movies and get the other one fed.  I'll check back in later...
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OK, I want to address Craig's comment that "most folks" find the standard a HUGE pain in the ass.  I admit that I'm bugged to read that, but thank you, Craig, for being honest and direct - we can always count on you for that!   :smt002

I chose to go with the video standard because of a few reasons - one is that I feel it is more valid, but the bigger influence on me was my consideration that we will not be able to view the photos of dozens and maybe a hundred or more participants.  I'm a bit regretful about it, because I'd like to encourage as much C&R as possible, but I feel I need to stick with what I chose as the rule.  I'm very biased, but I don't think it's very hard to use a little point and shoot digicam to video a measurement and release - it's only a step past the photo standard since practically all cameras take video these days.  If people don't like it or think it's too tough my reaction is "too bad".  If you can't live up to it then don't do it.  I explained in a previous thread though that I feel there's much much more to be gained from this standard than just improving your fish handling skills while videoing.  I truly believe that the discipline of showing raw footage of your attempt to do what amounts to something that is out of the ordinary is something that offers an opportunity for a great deal of learning and growth.  I've lived this, and, sorry for being so damn self centered, but I want others to experience it.  Challenge yourself, and be prepared to weather the storm of potental backlash if you fuck up, OR just don't pursue it.  It's really your choice.  I made my choice when I thought on and established the standard.  I will not change it.  I do care very deeply that people may not like it, and that hurts - I'm very sensitive about how people perceive me - but I am not afraid to pioneer a practice that can help people become better at what they're doing.  I actually feel obligated to pursue it.  If you don't buy my little diatribe then I respect that, but, really, are we that interested in doing the same thing year in and year out?  I for one feel that we set ourselves up for failure if we continue pursuing the same things in the same manner repeatedly over our lives.  We are not ants.  We are people, and the perspectives from our hearts are more important than the more instinctual urges of our minds, IMO... 

Nothing about winning this competition should be easy, and taking a photo of a fish has become easy, has it not?
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taking a photo of a fish has become easy, has it not?

Apparently not.  I got 1/2 dozen AOTY entries this week that I needed to DQ.   :smt003

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