Not a good day on the Sheep ranch for Wile. E.

Fair enough, but every time I bonk a fish on the head or slit its throat and watch its life bleed out, I feel a hint of sadness and guilt, definitely not a thrill. I enjoy the fishing and the eating, but not so much the killing.

same with me. I really only take what I and a few friends and family can eat. Hardly ever stockpile the freezer. I also have some guilt over the pretty fish (greenlings and cab's). Same with the long lived RF (chinas). Not preaching or judging. Just my M.O.

Its kinda odd how and why I choose what is worth killing (or not). Its funny I watched a hunting show today. This guy was in Africa and shot a jaguar. Really, is that necessary? Seems like it was a total ego kill (and no it wasn't attacking a local village, they baited it and set up a blind).

Fair enough, but every time I bonk a fish on the head or slit its throat and watch its life bleed out, I feel a hint of sadness and guilt, definitely not a thrill. I enjoy the fishing and the eating, but not so much the killing.

same with me. I really only take what I and a few friends and family can eat. Hardly ever stockpile the freezer. I also have some guilt over the pretty fish (greenlings and cab's). Same with the long lived RF (chinas). Not preaching or judging. Just my M.O.

Its kinda odd how and why I choose what is worth killing (or not). Its funny I watched a hunting show today. This guy was in Africa and shot a jaguar. Really, is that necessary? Seems like it was a total ego kill (and no it wasn't attacking a local village, they baited it and set up a blind).

Totally disagree I think Cabs are ugly

Fair enough, but every time I bonk a fish on the head or slit its throat and watch its life bleed out, I feel a hint of sadness and guilt, definitely not a thrill. I enjoy the fishing and the eating, but not so much the killing.

same with me. I really only take what I and a few friends and family can eat. Hardly ever stockpile the freezer. I also have some guilt over the pretty fish (greenlings and cab's). Same with the long lived RF (chinas). Not preaching or judging. Just my M.O.

Its kinda odd how and why I choose what is worth killing (or not). Its funny I watched a hunting show today. This guy was in Africa and shot a jaguar. Really, is that necessary? Seems like it was a total ego kill (and no it wasn't attacking a local village, they baited it and set up a blind).

Totally disagree I think Cabs are ugly

only a face a mother could love....maybe I just suck and catching and cleaning them

Not a dull day around there....

I love the look on your dogs face: "What the hell did you guys do?".

FYI: Are you aware that cyanide bombs are still placed on Federal lands to protect livestock from coyotes?. These are explosives that blast cyanide into the mouths of predators when they investigate them. Kills a lot of domestic and non-target species too. Makes shooting seem a preferred alternative. Your tax dollars at work.

I talked to Bob for a while about this, what he says, and he's been ranching here for 50 years, before 101 went thru his yard, he says some coyotes never go for the stock and stay completely freaked out by humans, but some get a taste for livestock, not even eating it all the time, just killing, and very good at it, dogs too, and if you have a small child running around ( his grandkids) , they could get attacked... And hard to kill, super smart, I hear them every night at my house getting rabbits, no wonder he never got on Bugs Bunny, would have been the last show for Bugs.
Here's the house, 100 years old, full downstairs remodel, Wolf/Sub-zero, lacquer beams, exterior paint.... and the highway really did go thru his front yard....
First paint job ive done where I had to move rifles and shotguns out of the way, or get to play with the clients Desert Eagle....
They are saving the front and top exterior for the spring, so untill then, I NEED WORK!!

Beautiful place there.  Interesting conversation, too.

Rats are different.

How so?

I don't even like fishing with bait because I don't like killing anything I'm not gonna eat, if I can help it.  Rats n gophers being the exception for my own selfish reason...  I'm sure the rancher thinks of cototes like I do rats but I can't get there just yet...  maybe it's the dog thing, mans best friend.  But I hate to admit I'm basing my opinion on cuteness...  wtf? 

Fair enough, but every time I bonk a fish on the head or slit its throat and watch its life bleed out, I feel a hint of sadness and guilt, definitely not a thrill. I enjoy the fishing and the eating, but not so much the killing.

same with me. I really only take what I and a few friends and family can eat. Hardly ever stockpile the freezer. I also have some guilt over the pretty fish (greenlings and cab's). Same with the long lived RF (chinas). Not preaching or judging. Just my M.O.

Its kinda odd how and why I choose what is worth killing (or not). Its funny I watched a hunting show today. This guy was in Africa and shot a jaguar. Really, is that necessary? Seems like it was a total ego kill (and no it wasn't attacking a local village, they baited it and set up a blind).

You mean a leopard? I don't think there's too many jaguars in Africa.

Anyway, I'm sure he shot whatever it was because he wanted the mount, or he wanted the hide....not to polish his ego.

Neat place you worked on Ben.

I myself try to keep a "light footprint", but I've been living in the sticks long enough to see the life/death thing play out often enough. Sometimes it happens.

I watched my beloved husky dog run out in the yard one morning & challenge a coyote. They went round n' round, heads down, butts up, leaping and playing like they were two best friends. Then the coyote ran into the wood & she ran after it.
I freaked, figuring there were 3-4 more coyotes just waiting to ambush my dog. But she stopped just inside the tree line & the 'yote ran off. It probably helped that he thought she was one...

They take cats in my area all the time. I only wish they would take more deer.

Pretty sweet how this post can go on for 3 pages with conflicting opinions and everyone keeps their cool.  Class act group of guys!
-beenfishin

   Took a walk with a buddy who wanted to get a turkey this morning. He hunkered down and went to see where the birds might be. Finally saw about a dozen birds doing about a hundred miles an hour across an open field then take flight with two coyotes on their tails. Pretty cool to watch those wild dogs run....they are very fast but can't fly very well. Maybe the coyotes will make all the homeless guys in the creeks near there take flight. You hardly see any sign of the coyotes except you know they are around due to piles of feathers and lots of scat with bones. It's the opposite with the homeless....tons of trash and crap everywhere.

Being a neanderthal has its perks....I have no conflicts.  I hunt fish, take what I want(within the regs of course) and have no regrets or remorse about it. I take pics of my quarry and hang them in my office and post them online for my friends to see. I cook them for myself and gift em to friends who appreciate them.  I would like to start hunting game also....in which I will do the same.

If I owned a ranch, I would eliminate the pests.  Whether it is necessary to remove them or not would be my own determination. Whether they were here first makes no difference to me. I am here now and I'm at the top of the food chain.  Animals share the same terriotorial insticts and I doubt they coyotes stop to consider the feelings or rights of the sheep before they slaughter them.

 

It's the opposite with the homeless....tons of trash and crap everywhere.

I think I see a solution to this problem.  Do I need to spell it out?

You may think I'm cruel but culling the herd keeps disease and polulations in check the way nature would work anyway if they weren't allowed to run amuck and get out of control like they are today.

  and I'm at the top of the food chain.

Um, I hate to contradict, but that ain't always the case at sea


 

  and I'm at the top of the food chain.

Um, I hate to contradict, but that ain't always the case at sea


 

Nope, we are still apex, its just illegal for us to erradicate them.....If I could I would.

Nope, we are still apex, its just illegal for us to erradicate them.....If I could I would.

But then there's that whole "unintended consequences" thing ...