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Topic: Obvious coho/silver salmon illegal retained, YouTube chnl FISHERMAN CHRONICLES  (Read 10103 times)

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nudling

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Hope he learns from this by paying a fine -- all the evidence is there for DFG/W.

Seems like he was seeking likeys and subscribies and had numerous times to catch his mistake - especially during video editing. Then to create another video to claim a limit on the same fish is just as funny as showing us the gums and letting us know what to look for in a "shinook".
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My very first Kayak salmon was also a Silver
I had trouble with my net and simply pulled the fish onto my lap
I was stoked, until I realized what it was and that I couldn’t keep it
Said to myself, “Oh well” and slid it off my lap and back in the water

On a side note, I think Coho meat is dry and grainy
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My very first Kayak salmon was also a Silver
I had trouble with my net and simply pulled the fish onto my lap
I was stoked, until I realized what it was and that I couldn’t keep it
Said to myself, “Oh well” and slid it off my lap and back in the water

On a side note, I think Coho meat is dry and grainy
Like halibut?   :smt005 :smt006
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Obvious coho when it was hooked. I’d have no problem dropping a dime on this guy, he’s obnoxious. Usually when the YouTube crowd posts something illegal they take it down as soon as it’s pointed out. Sometimes they will even address the mistake and show contrition.

This clown tries to edit out the way incriminating gum line shot not realizing or caring that it’s still an obvious coho on the game clip.

Likes and views are a helluva drug. 
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Seems a little harsh to hold this over a young man who came to realize the mistake he made.  He did say it was his first legal salmon, so I could see the excitement.

hes been a "Youtuber" for a long time. they willfully and sometimes forcefully put themselves in a position of being a mentor, teacher, guide, or "supreme knowledge holder" due to their video fame.  The standard for YouTubers isn't necessarily higher (everyone's standard is the same- legally and safely catch fish) but I would say that they should be much more careful and considerate in their actions and production because of this exposure they're creating.

The influx of new fishermen who look up to these few people who have exposed them to the sport are extremely influenced by their actions and attitudes to the fishery.  this displays no respect or cares for the fishery (or ones self to be completely honest, its just a sad convolution of "fame") a bad foundation to start on.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2022, 12:16:16 PM by christianbrat »
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oh this is the same jackass that got stung by a sting ray a couple of years ago.  SMH.  Ignore, move on.  Refuse to give this a-hole any more attention. 
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On a side note, I think Coho meat is dry and grainy
You must be overcooking it  :smt003. Coho is typically less oily than nook, but still delicious. Lower the temperature and shorten the cook time.

Oregon DFW says they've seen a "disappointingly high number" of illegally harvested wild coho this summer, fish that were mistaken for Chinook. I still see mis-IDed salmon among my fellow kayak anglers up here, even guys who've fished for salmon for some years. I don't know why it's so particularly rampant this season compared to the previous few.
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If adults can mistakenly ID coho then I dont see why this is any different.
Yes he tried to cover up but the young man is what about 18-19 yrs old? Not saying that's an excuse but it can happen.
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On a side note, I think Coho meat is dry and grainy
You must be overcooking it  :smt003. Coho is typically less oily than nook, but still delicious. Lower the temperature and shorten the cook time.

Oregon DFW says they've seen a "disappointingly high number" of illegally harvested wild coho this summer, fish that were mistaken for Chinook. I still see mis-IDed salmon among my fellow kayak anglers up here, even guys who've fished for salmon for some years. I don't know why it's so particularly rampant this season compared to the previous few.
DFG gives the confiscated  “errors” to  Bodega Fire Dept.  they might have a few good recipes… :smt006
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If adults can mistakenly ID coho then I dont see why this is any different.
Yes he tried to cover up but the young man is what about 18-19 yrs old? Not saying that's an excuse but it can happen.

It's not the adult vs. teenager issue.  It's the thousands of subscribers on youtube issue.  If you put yourself out there as an ambassador to the sport, you need to act like it.  And again, when others in his situation have made this kind of mistake, they take the videos down.  This clown tried to edit out the incriminating stuff without any acknowledgement of the problem to chase those likes and views.
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And again, when others in his situation have made this kind of mistake, they take the videos down.  This clown tried to edit out the incriminating stuff without any acknowledgement of the problem to chase those likes and views.

And DFG will handle it I'm sure.

Youtube is entertainment and not a source for rules/regulations.
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And again, when others in his situation have made this kind of mistake, they take the videos down.  This clown tried to edit out the incriminating stuff without any acknowledgement of the problem to chase those likes and views.

And DFG will handle it I'm sure.

Youtube is entertainment and not a source for rules/regulations.

i wish I could look at things with such compartmentalization and specificity, but the reality is its not just for entertainment, and people go there to learn. when you have people posting as "Educators" you cannot blame them for listening- they should look deeper, but with how many people complain about complex regs (they're honestly not that bad tbh) I wouldn't just assume that they will all study the regs until they understand those too.    The poster in question literally tried to "Teach" the viewers about Fish ID, told them false information, and then continued to spread it online. This isn't a case of mistaken identity, he made himself the teacher and there are inherent responsibilities with that.  sure he's an 18/19 year old kid, but again, so are the other 18/19 year olds who are responsible enough to at least google a few pics of these fish before killing them.
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The edit's to try and change the narrative or cover up a mistake are a bit cowardly to me.  It would be better to own up to the mistake and show you are as human as anyone else.  At least to me that is still good content, they shouldn't dismiss it since it's not a prize because it is an experience.  But I also agree that if you are going to be presenting yourself as an expert, that you should know what the heck you are doing.  If it's your first time out on a kayak, you are not wearing remotely the right gear, or carrying the right equipment, you are not an expert and shouldn't be trying to teach anyone what you are doing.  But share the experience, I'm cool with that.  Share it when things go wrong especially  :smt044
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If adults can mistakenly ID coho then I dont see why this is any different.
Yes he tried to cover up but the young man is what about 18-19 yrs old? Not saying that's an excuse but it can happen.

It's not the adult vs. teenager issue.  It's the thousands of subscribers on youtube issue.  If you put yourself out there as an ambassador to the sport, you need to act like it.  And again, when others in his situation have made this kind of mistake, they take the videos down.  This clown tried to edit out the incriminating stuff without any acknowledgement of the problem to chase those likes and views.
^^^ This!

If he had made the error, apologized, taken the video down and used the experience to change his ways moving forward ... all good. But to take down the original video, edit out the most incriminating parts, and repost it ... that's just doubling down on stupid. Zero pity for this fool.
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Can someone please post the edited video he supposedly reposted after realizing his mistake? I’d like to see how he concealed the fact that it was a coho.
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