Yak cart advice needed.

Just came back from a trip to Black Butte Lake with my Old Town Predator PDL, and found that my old cart which worked fine for my Kilroy, sucks on the wider Predator.
Looking for recommendations from y'all. Ideally would like to find one that can stow in the boat. Cost is not really a problem - it's for fishing after all.

I haven't tried any others to compare but I'm pretty happy with my C Tug.  Breaks down and stows easily.  I use it on my OK Trident 13 and my Pro Angler 14.

That’s a great recommendation considering the fully rigged pa 14 breaks 140# according to their website.

Shameless plug but look at the Wilderness  Systems cart. It can be made to break down by adding pins instead of bolts. Hard wheels  or beach  wheels. Less than Wheeleeze too

Shameless plug but look at the Wilderness  Systems cart. It can be made to break down by adding pins instead of bolts. Hard wheels  or beach  wheels. Less than Wheeleeze too

cool,didnt know they made a cart

It's badass looking, love the adjustable rails!

https://www.wildernesssystems.com/us/products/heavy-duty-kayak-cart-beach-wheels

This year started using the Sea to Summit Sit On Top Kayak Cart picked up from REI with a coupon for $125.  Love how it just slides into the scupper holes, get to the shore, float the yak and it slides out simply (easiest when I too can stand in the water knee deep).  If cold winter water, I generally have to turn the kayak onto its side then slide the cart free.  Best part for me is no more straps. 

Thanks for all the suggestions.
Can you install the Sea to Summit without turning the kayak upside down? I'd hate to have to re-rig every time I go out.
How much weight will it support? I think that my Predator is north of 150# loaded.
The Ctug looks ok, though I've read some bad reviews on the Old Town Predator FB group.
I'm leaning towards the Wilderness Systems cart. Does anyone know what size the bolts are that need to be replaced with tractor pins?

I had the C-tug for my feelfree Lure 13.5. Worked pretty good and liked being able to swap out hard tires for the sand tires quickly and easily. They hold up to 150#. The only issue I had with the tug is that their sand tires doesent work great in the real soft stuff and kept getting stuck on some of the beaches out of mendocino/fort bragg. And it barking down easley is a bonus. Consider it but I think you would be happy with the wilderness systems if you used pins like rob was saying. Those tires wont have any issue with sand, gravle or launch ramps. Go get eyes on then both at a store before you pull the trigger. Good luck.

<<Can you install the Sea to Summit without turning the kayak upside down? I'd hate to have to re-rig every time I go out.
How much weight will it support?>>

Until this month I would turn it on its side, like you assume correct I wheel it to the launch point loaded up, had to unload, turn onto its side, pull the wheels and reload all gear.  Last week was the first time I floated it to withdraw the wheels (that was easy) and floated to put back wheels back on (not near as easy, took me 2-3 minutes but I think I can get better).  I will add a leash to the cart next winter so I do not have to get into the water for the removal, and expect on return I will have to turn the yak onto its side for reinsert.

I transport on top of my SUV.  The wheels in the scupper made this much easier for me--- loading up I lift the front end of the kayak above my head and rest it onto the SUV, wheels stay attached.  With my hands free I can pop the wheels free, set them aside.  Same idea getting the kayak off, pop the wheels into the holes and bring the kayak down onto the wheels.  Sometimes I just lift the kayak down to the grown onto its side, slide in the wheels, depends on my mood I guess.

Not sure about specs, I doubt I have exceeded 100-100, better check the web.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I'm leaning towards the Wilderness Systems cart. Does anyone know what size the bolts are that need to be replaced with tractor pins?

I will look at it later and report back.

I would play around on YouTube. There are some videos of guys changing their carts to make kayaks load without rolling it. I'm sure if you watch enough of them, they can give you ideas that will might work for you. A guy had a pretty good idea for the hobie carts that might work for you.

I got the Wilderness system cart, and it's freakin' amazing.
Loads really easily and the yak feels incredibly stable on it.
I took it for a walk around the property fully loaded and I think it won't be too bad for the 1/4 mile walk to the part of the lake I want to get to for crappie.
I'll let y'all know how I and it does.

I got the Wilderness system cart, and it's freakin' amazing.
Loads really easily and the yak feels incredibly stable on it.
I took it for a walk around the property fully loaded and I think it won't be too bad for the 1/4 mile walk to the part of the lake I want to get to for crappie.
I'll let y'all know how I and it does.

Do you have the balloon wheels one? If so, does the wheel hub have ball bearings?

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I'd be really careful about scupper carts.  Hobies have reinforcement built into the scuppers to handle the extra stress/weight.  I want to say there were old posts regarding cracks/leaks due to scupper cart usage in other manufacturers.  The sit-on-top carts are a safer bet.