fish clip stringer

Doubt anyone thinks ur a poacher.  Make a mistake, own it.  Everyone makes mistakes   I think the survival of the fish is reason enough not to upgrade...

Honestly I was embarrassed when I got called out and I considered deleting my post and wished I hadn't said what I did, but instead of doing any of that or getting defensive I welcomed everyone's views and opinions. I do want to mention that I am far from a poacher and can only think of one time that I switched out one ling and the one I threw back was well alive and kicking. I do understand it's unethical.  With abalone regs it clearly states once you have your limit GTFO of the water and with lings and things it's not clearly written out like that. Anyways I won't be trading out lings.

But I am curious are you guys bleeding and killing your fish as soon as you catch them? Do you keep them alive and out of water and dip them occasionally? Do you beat them with a bat and then dip them every now and then and then bleed them when you get to shore? I'm just wondering and not trying to step on any toes...

No reason to be embarrassed. I think people should feel free to ask questions about the regs without fear. IMHO, the biggest weakness of this forum is that some people treat the regs like a religious text, rather than the poorly-written pseudo-legal document that it really is.

As for your question, if I'm going to keep a fish, I beat it mercilessly and bleed it. IMHO, it's a very bad idea to have a live fish flopping around in (or beside) your kayak.

I cut the gills, leave it in the water for a few minutes as it bleeds out (if it's out of the water it clots quick and doesn't bleed enough). Then I bash it's brain with a bat then either put it in a burlap sack or inside my kayak center hatch.

I have accidentally broken regs a few times myself due to confusion. It's no big deal. I am grateful when it is pointed out to me.

bleed em and throw them on a game clip in the tank well. With a wet burlap sack covering them then occasionally re wet the burlap

When I decide I'm going to keep a fish I put it on my game clip and then cut its gills. I then let it bleed out in the water for a minute. Then it goes into my ice mule catch cooler. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IYJ7R8M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1441594698&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=Ice+mule+catch+cooler

I wouldn't sweat it Annie. Judging by the responses on here it appears that it's a confusing reg to many.

even the game wardens will give me different answers when asked about certain questions. we all make mistakes or wasn't aware of the "actual" meanings from the handbook. if you don't know the regs then it's an honest mistake. we all do it at some point of time. I make honest mistake and game warden just warned me. (depending on severity of mistake).

it's also hard to prove if you upgrade or not unless the GW got eyes on you. say you catched 3 lings and trying to limit out on RF and caught another ling(deep throat) and died. what do you do? released it or exchanged one that is alive on stringer?

here is a good example: over at PG i caught a 3 inch canary. i didn't know i had it on. he was dead on surface. no air in eyes or stomach. just died. I spent some time trying to see if it would come alive but it didn't. so what happens now? I can't keep it. i felt bad, really I did.

sometimes rules are meant to be broken to do the right thing. if GW cites you then he is a ****head.

Honestly I was embarrassed when I got called out and I considered deleting my post and wished I hadn't said what I did, but instead of doing any of that or getting defensive I welcomed everyone's views and opinions. I do want to mention that I am far from a poacher and can only think of one time that I switched out one ling and the one I threw back was well alive and kicking. I do understand it's unethical.  With abalone regs it clearly states once you have your limit GTFO of the water and with lings and things it's not clearly written out like that. Anyways I won't be trading out lings.

But I am curious are you guys bleeding and killing your fish as soon as you catch them? Do you keep them alive and out of water and dip them occasionally? Do you beat them with a bat and then dip them every now and then and then bleed them when you get to shore? I'm just wondering and not trying to step on any toes...

No reason to be embarrassed. I think people should feel free to ask questions about the regs without fear. IMHO, the biggest weakness of this forum is that some people treat the regs like a religious text, rather than the poorly-written pseudo-legal document that it really is.

As for your question, if I'm going to keep a fish, I beat it mercilessly and bleed it. IMHO, it's a very bad idea to have a live fish flopping around in (or beside) your kayak.

+1 on the regs being poorly written. Even the wardens can't understand some of it and it's their job. I bleed my fish on a stringer and put it behind me. If you come close to a limit, that is a lot of weight to have hanging over the side of your yak, not to mention kind of a sea anchor.

The regs are not exactly a model of clarity.

i hang my fish over the side of my kayak because i want the freshest fish possible and i bleed out the bigger fish. 

Honestly I was embarrassed when I got called out and I considered deleting my post and wished I hadn't said what I did, but instead of doing any of that or getting defensive I welcomed everyone's views and opinions. I do want to mention that I am far from a poacher and can only think of one time that I switched out one ling and the one I threw back was well alive and kicking. I do understand it's unethical.  With abalone regs it clearly states once you have your limit GTFO of the water and with lings and things it's not clearly written out like that. Anyways I won't be trading out lings.

No need to delete your post. It's good that you asked the question in the first place. Replies can be taken in all different ways, depending on the choice of words.

The three fish limit has taken a lot of the guesswork out of keeping a fish or two and the ability to keep trying for a big fish. Say it is so slow that I'm stoked to finally catch a 28in for dinner then high tide comes along and I catch a nice 35 incher, even then I can continue to CNR until I finally catch a fish that I'm satisfied with. A huge three fish limit is impressive but really the only one that matters is the biggest one. Unless we're talking tablefare then it's not the biggest ones that are the best anyways.

For Lings, I clip em, bleed em over the side for a few minutes and back in the well. I won't drag fish all day...waste of my energy since I'm always pedaling.  I'll cover them with burlap and dunk them once in a while.

When I'm fishing kokanee or trout, I always carry my shimano bristol bay bag, which is filled with ice.  Bleed trout over side and put them in the bag.  Best meat quality that way.

Some bleed 'me and some don't.  Why?  Does bleeding them keep them fresher?  Easier to clean later...?

I keep min on stringer in the tank well and dunk every 30 min to keep wet.

Alright, back to a computer and avoiding work instead of trying to phone post while slaying mud bugs-

What if it dies from deep throating ( ) and you cant return but one on the stringer is still alive and kicking then what would you do toss the one bleeding out and probably going to die or the one that appears fine.

The legal thing to do is to immediately release the incidentally caught fish instead of swapping it out.  The ethical thing to do might be either to release the fish most likely to survive or, if none are likely to survive, simply keep the fish that puts you over the limit.  Or even to follow the law and release the fish to be part of the food chain even if it will die.  The unethical thing to do would be to pick the smallest of the fish to release regardless of its chances of survival - that's higrading, its illegal, and its unethical.  There is a wide spectrum of personal ethics among sportsmen and I'm not going to fault anyone for breaking a law in order to follow a defensible set of ethics.  Sometimes following the law is unethical, its up to you to decide what to do in that situation.

Saying this is Illegal, Does it say this is illegal and that once in possession cant be changed.

Carrie Wilson has said it before, for whatever that is worth.  I look at the spectrum of possession as an intent to retain the fish/crab/whatever.  Once I have an intent to retain the fish, and I have it secured, I cut the gills, I have it in teh bag or on the clip, then I have an intent and the ability, so it goes against my bag limit.  Is that spelled out in the regs?  No.  But words that are not defined in the regs are given their ordinary dictionary meanings.  You can't unring a bell, and you can't unpossess a fish from your bag limit.

No reason to be embarrassed. I think people should feel free to ask questions about the regs without fear. IMHO, the biggest weakness of this forum is that some people treat the regs like a religious text, rather than the poorly-written pseudo-legal document that it really is.

As for your question, if I'm going to keep a fish, I beat it mercilessly and bleed it. IMHO, it's a very bad idea to have a live fish flopping around in (or beside) your kayak.

I don't see this around here at all.  I think most people are thoughtful and well intentioned.  The regs are poorly written and not at all clear, and are actually contradictory and we've covered this ground before.

even the game wardens will give me different answers when asked about certain questions. we all make mistakes or wasn't aware of the "actual" meanings from the handbook. if you don't know the regs then it's an honest mistake. we all do it at some point of time. I make honest mistake and game warden just warned me. (depending on severity of mistake).

it's also hard to prove if you upgrade or not unless the GW got eyes on you. say you catched 3 lings and trying to limit out on RF and caught another ling(deep throat) and died. what do you do? released it or exchanged one that is alive on stringer?

here is a good example: over at PG i caught a 3 inch canary. i didn't know i had it on. he was dead on surface. no air in eyes or stomach. just died. I spent some time trying to see if it would come alive but it didn't. so what happens now? I can't keep it. i felt bad, really I did.

sometimes rules are meant to be broken to do the right thing. if GW cites you then he is a ****head.

I've also received a warning from a game warden before.  It happens.

Some bleed 'me and some don't.  Why?  Does bleeding them keep them fresher?  Easier to clean later...?

I keep min on stringer in the tank well and dunk every 30 min to keep wet.

Bleeding the fish makes a big difference in meat quality imo.  The heaviest fish tournaments end up with bloody, soupy fish.  Ugh.  I'm in the bleed it out, bonk it and toss it in the wet burlap camp.