JELLY CAUGHT A HOG!!!! NON YAK DAY IN SONOMA W/KICKINBASS

The caliber of the bullet has an impact on the level of recoil as well. Look at magnum loads, 250 + grain. You're feeling that no matter what. I shoot with a 160 grain bullet in my '06 to target practice and break it in with out much shoulder abuse. I hunt with 180 grain accu-points

BTW--100th year anniversary of the 30-06

I thnk the .270 is a good Western hunting cartridge that offers 10 load/bullet configurations while the 30-06/7.62 offers 48. Seems like the 30-06 offers more, but I persionally think that is deceiving. Don't get me wrong, the '06 is a tried and true cartridge. But 10 configurations is more than enough in practice given the game you'd pursue with either.

The .270 has speed also--it has 200fps edge over the typcial '06 round which means it will shoot a bit flatter. Given that the game you are hunting isn't likely to eat you, personally, I favor accuracy versus bullet weight/power. And if the game might eat me, I'd be carrying somethign a lot bigger than an '06. The '06 is popular not because it is best for the task--it was and is popular because ammo was always plentiful. Nothing wrong with practicality either. But I like technology and the .270 is more 'tech'. Practically, you'd see little difference in the field based on the folks I knwo who use them--so I'd get rid of useless recoil. Kickfish is right though--'06 ammo is easier to find if you aren't the plan a head type and buy when you get there.

Also remember physics: F = 1/2mv**2, so mass get's halved but velocity get squared before being havled in the force equation. Personally I like flat-shootin long-range rifles.  Full Disclosure: the only 7.62mm I ever spent a lot of time with was the machine gun I sometimes carried in the military and shot on the range--a lot. So my '06 knowledge is second-hand mostly through my hog-huntin' brother in law and his buddies.

Yes, yes.... balistics this, grains that. load the other thing......

Jelly, WE WANT THE STORY!!!!

MolBasser

Ncie boar Jelly. I am sure Jelly will post his story soon enough. And he has another pig head as well--watch out Mooch 

Here Jelly, Jelly, Jelly!! I agree with Mol Guns are Guns. I like to hunt. That means get Closer then a hundred yards. Open sights, whites of there eyes, shotgun/slug, one shot, Dead. If you can't hit it with a football, your not really hunting. closer then that is what my Bow is for. Here Jelly Jelly Jelly!   
  Randall

I'll tell him to get online after school today.

Very nice!! Congrats to Jelly!!!!!!!!!

        First thank you all for the support and thank you Andy for everything. Well when we got out to the ranch by lake sonoma I meet the guy Dean that would be taking us on his land. Tanner which is Andy's son, Dean, Andy and I got in his truck. While we were driving down the road to on of the spots we saw some pigs. We started to climb the hill every thing was on. The hill we climbed was steep. On our way to the top we saw some more pigs but from a long ways away and we couldn't get to them. When we did see some close by they picked up on our scent and took off . After looking around a little more we headed back. We got in the truck again and went to a new spot. We only saw signs of pigs and herd them. So we got in the truck and went to another spot. Same thing happend there but on the way back we saw some just a little down the road . WE hurried back to the truck once again. The pigs quickly picked up on our scent and took off. We followed one. Just a little into the woods we found it  I almost pissed my self. I got the 270. and took aim pulled the trigger . I didn't feel a thing the pig ran ten ft then fell. . We gutted it Turned out I had split the heart in half. Perfect shot. But I couldn't have done any of this with out Andy THANK U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sweet!  Heart shot.

Good job Jelly!!!

Save me a sausage.

MolBasser

Surfing Marmot,

I guess you don't know too much about wild pigs.  They can get to be 300 to 350 lbs. and the males can have 3" tusk.  People in Mexico get killed by them because they hunt with knives, bows and spears.

If fact back east they got one at 1000 lbs.  I think it was true.  But, a lot of guys said it was a lie.

Also, the 30-06 is the minimum caliber to get an elk.  .270 they would just tell you to keep it in the truck.

Ken kickfish

I guess you don't know too much about wild pigs.

I know more than you just told me, but its true I am no expert. Just making conversation until Jelly's report. BTW I know how big feral pigs get and how dangerous the boars are with their tusks. I doubt the 1000 pound story too--wild pigs generally don't bulk up like farm-raised pigs--they don't eat as well, have diseases, and get a lot more exercise. THe 1,000 pound pig might have been a escapee from a farm if its even true--but hunters exaggerate as much as fisherman do. I also know people who hunt boar with a 30-30 open sights as well as .270s, '06, and even an M-1 Garand. And one who bow hunts though I think that is very risky if you run accross a big boar because you need to be pretty close--within range of a charge.

Never meant you should hunt Elk with a .270? I meant pigs and deer aournd here. But like Mol and Randy said. Use what you like. Talk is cheap, catching and bagging is the real money.

I've seen two well over 400 lbs taken below Grass valley. one was close to 500 and filled the back of a full size chevy truck. the tusk were 4.5 inches long and as sharp as my knife. the ranch I hunt had one at 650-too 700lbs 8 years ago. This place has me on the predation permit so if I want I can hunt at night w/ lights. imagine 8-10 of them running right bye you in the dark. Thats why i use a shotgun w/ slugs. a friend of mine took one about 200 lbs w/a 44 mag trough the chest and sat down next to it and rolled a smoke to calm his nerves. As he lit his smoke the pig got up and ran off. They are TUFF.  Way to go Jelly! Nothing like a well placed shot.  Randall

I got a 41 mag as a back up when hunting pigs or even a deer.  One guy got killed from a penned up deer he had on his land a few days ago.

Ken kickfish

One guy got killed from a penned up deer he had on his land a few days ago.

Yep heard about it. Almost every year someone get seriously gored by a deer in one of the national parks. Full-size Deer are nothing to full with. Even rabid raccoons are no joke if you are not armed as the deer guy wasn't--because they have no fear and feel no pain.

A shotgun with slugs like Randall uses seems to me a real good idea if you aren't in a stand. I would guess that if you come up on them in brush from donwwind and scare them you might not have much time to get a well-placed shot off with a scoped rifle--whether they ran away or at you. My brother-inlaw has tried to get me to go with him many a time and I did a few but not carrying a rifle. They usually stake out a place from a stand and wait. The sausage and cuts of pork he get's sure makes it tempting sometimes but he doesn't have consistent access to the good ground down here you guys seem to up there--makes a difference. But after that spinach contamination problem, I imagine there will be more hunting opened up in San Benito County. Problems is there are more hunters than pigs down here  .

So jujst to set the record straight on feral versus domestic hog size and other things:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/hogzilla.asp

The article mentions, as I said, feral pigs are smaller and also casts a lot of doubt on the 1,000-ound 'Hogzilla'. The biologist also gives weight limits for feral pigs--at least in Georgia--and they are well under the 1,000-1,500 pounds domestic pigs can grow to before slaughter--and domestics are slaughtered in their prime so they are much younger than the biggest wild ones.

This kind of banter is fun and gives, me at least, something to do when I cannot fish. But we kind of hijacked Jelly's thread. And it is he we should honor--he, after all, brought home the bacon (sorry couldn't resist).

Again, Jelly congrats on a great shot and a great kill. Wild Pig sausage is wonderful. Enjoy. An keep tha head in the freezer for BAM 3--its got Mooch's name on it