SC combat fishing 08/21/13 Slowing Down

Had a chance to check out the Combat zone and fished the line for a few hours. Not to many people. It was slow going and ended up with 4 hookups and beach landed only one.  Other combatants were hooking up but just couldn't hold on to them. Sorry no pics this time, till i get a new camera.

Will be back on the combat line this sunday. company welcome

I was there last Sunday with my son he hooked up 3 times but couldn't land any. Still fun as hell tho

Any ideas on what will be the destiny of these salmons? they return to spawn so will they spawn here? since it's still salt water, do they still eat? will they degrade and die here like when they go up river or will they go back to sea? inquiring like to know...

John

Any ideas on what will be the destiny of these salmons? they return to spawn so will they spawn here? since it's still salt water, do they still eat? will they degrade and die here like when they go up river or will they go back to sea? inquiring like to know...

John

I posted this same question a few weeks ago. This was the answer I got:

Woohoo Alex! Nice salmon bro.
Those fish are raised & released by MBSTP to supplement recreational salmon fishing. Most of them just return to the harbor in Aug/Sept and swim in circles because they don't know where to go. But some make it into the local creeks and attempt to spawn.
No kayak fishing in the harbor has always been the rule.

Sad fate for such a beautiful fish.

Does that mean they just swim in circles till they die or get landed? If so, that's very sad indeed!

Yes they will just die since they don't know where to go. Now if the DFG would have any brains and don't mind an "invasive species" from populating San Lorenzo Creek, they could release them in the upper watershed and let them go downstream from there. They'd come back there.

In Resurrection Bay Alaska they do the same with two species of salmon, the sockeye and silvers. They come back into the bay and just circle till they either get snagged (which is legal and fun) or die. Recreational Fisherman also question this practice and want the AFG to release them upstream in the creeks. That way they too will return and maybe spawn.

Still on the subject, I wonder what is going to happen when the smolts they released in HMB harbor return in large numbers?

I maybe be out there this Sunday if other plans fall through.

Yes they will just die since they don't know where to go. Now if the DFG would have any brains and don't mind an "invasive species" from populating San Lorenzo Creek, they could release them in the upper watershed and let them go downstream from there. They'd come back there.

In Resurrection Bay Alaska they do the same with two species of salmon, the sockeye and silvers. They come back into the bay and just circle till they either get snagged (which is legal and fun) or die. Recreational Fisherman also question this practice and want the AFG to release them upstream in the creeks. That way they too will return and maybe spawn.

Still on the subject, I wonder what is going to happen when the smolts they released in HMB harbor return in large numbers?

Same thing. New Combat fishing Zone see you there in 3 to 4 years.

I maybe be out there this Sunday if other plans fall through.

Hope to see you there and if you see me come and say hello

The smolt were excess production from sac hatcheries anyways.  If they didn't go here, they likely would never have been produced in the first place. By going here they provided a nearshore fishing opportunity.  Remember those salmon that were out in 80-120 in front of SC earlier this year?  Where do you think those ended up?

Yes they will just die since they don't know where to go. Now if the DFG would have any brains and don't mind an "invasive species" from populating San Lorenzo Creek, they could release them in the upper watershed and let them go downstream from there. They'd come back there.

Well, maybe they do mind an "invasive species".  Maybe the competition with the native steelhead in that watershed would be too much.  Maybe chinook don't normal successfully maintain a spawning cycle in small streams like the San Lo.  Maybe they did think through all this and have their reasons.   

-Allen

Maybe they did think through all this and have their reasons.   

Unfortunately, in this case, I think logical reasoning gets trumped by Federal regulations.
But MBSTP does a great job of balancing both IMO. Here's their site: http://www.mbstp.org/

Similar discussion from 5yrs ago: http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=15479.msg147336#msg147336

Maybe they did think through all this and have their reasons.   

Unfortunately, in this case, I think logical reasoning gets trumped by Federal regulations.
But MBSTP does a great job of balancing both IMO. Here's their site: http://www.mbstp.org/

Similar discussion from 5yrs ago: http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=15479.msg147336#msg147336

Yeah ... similar to the statement I made, "Maybe the competition with the native steelhead in that watershed would be too much."   

-Allen