Shark Shields

Chuck thinks the Hobie AI has a big enough profile that a shark won't attack it and there are no reports of an AI being attacked that I know of. With the amas it is also the most survivable if the hull is breached.

As I was coming in at Cap on that day I had a few thoughts that the AI in Island style, like I was out there, might just look like a momma and her pup, or similar scenario.  However I would hope that the ama gets hit first, and that it leaves after that 

It must not detur butts if DC uses one!!!   

Not deterring a missle attack is not a reason to not buy a SS IMO because survivability of the first attack is 100%. It's when you are in the water and he decides to come back for a second helping, that is where the SS might actually save your life. If you deploy the SS through a scupper hole, the SS will not be active if the boat is upside down.

I must be missing something here.  How is it that being with other yakers makes a diff on whether or not the GWS comes around?  I understand the rescue aspect, is there more?  There's a youtube vid out there of a couple guys on yaks rafted up as a GWS circles around.

I think it just lowers the odds that YOU will get hit.  If you are by yourself and there is an attack your odds are 1 in 1 that you are the target.  If with 5 guys it is 1 in 5 or 20%.  This reasoning worked great for the other guys out fishing on Saturday with FishingAddict.

Reason isn't to lower the odd's but to increase your odd's of receiving help.  If something goes bad, GWS attach, leaky kayak, lost paddle, injury, etc... having someone out there to help nearby increases your chance of survival, not decrease the chance it will happen to you.

Reason isn't to lower the odd's but to increase your odd's of receiving help.  If something goes bad, GWS attach, leaky kayak, lost paddle, injury, etc... having someone out there to help nearby increases your chance of survival, not decrease the chance it will happen to you.

I thought the "paddling in a group" was to increase the odds that someone would catch the attack on their gopro......

 

THAT would be a sight ... for scientific research purposes.

Reason isn't to lower the odd's but to increase your odd's of receiving help.  If something goes bad, GWS attach, leaky kayak, lost paddle, injury, etc... having someone out there to help nearby increases your chance of survival, not decrease the chance it will happen to you.

I think we are both right.  Being in a group will lower the odds that you will be the target in the event of an attack.   And if you are hit, the group can help you out.

I am fairly new to the kayak fishing world but I have surfed the Central Coast for over 20 years.  As a surfer I always thought of it as lowering the odds but the fatality rate of surfers attacked is much higher than that of kayakers attacked.

Like Sean Van Sommeran says:  "you don't have to paddle faster than the shark, just faster than your buddy."

Allen

Chuck thinks the Hobie AI has a big enough profile that a shark won't attack it and there are no reports of an AI being attacked that I know of. With the amas it is also the most survivable if the hull is breached.

As I was coming in at Cap on that day I had a few thoughts that the AI in Island style, like I was out there, might just look like a momma and her pup, or similar scenario.  However I would hope that the ama gets hit first, and that it leaves after that 

There was an interesting program on Discovery/NGC/TLC channel. A Researcher dragged two silhouettes tethered side by side in the water of a female seal (large silhouette) and her pup (smaller sil.) off the coast of W. Africa or Aussie land (not sure) at sunset and on into the night.  The results were conclusive. Every time a GWS attacked, it bit the bigger silhouette, ignoring the other. They also tested this during the daylight hrs. and the results were the same.

I guess their point was to show that GWS are oportunistic and selective predator. Lest way that  how I saw it.

There was an interesting program on Discovery/NGC/TLC channel. A Researcher dragged two silhouettes tethered side by side in the water of a female seal (large silhouette) and her pup (smaller sil.) off the coast of W. Africa or Aussie land (not sure) at sunset and on into the night.  The results were conclusive. Every time a GWS attacked, it bit the bigger silhouette, ignoring the other. They also tested this during the daylight hrs. and the results were the same.

I guess their point was to show that GWS are oportunistic and selective predator. Lest way that  how I saw it.

Unlike most humans, a GWS has to hunt for its meal. Why spend the energy launching itself out of the water for an hors d'oeuvre when it can have the entrée instead?

Chuck thinks the Hobie AI has a big enough profile that a shark won't attack it and there are no reports of an AI being attacked that I know of. With the amas it is also the most survivable if the hull is breached.

As I was coming in at Cap on that day I had a few thoughts that the AI in Island style, like I was out there, might just look like a momma and her pup, or similar scenario.  However I would hope that the ama gets hit first, and that it leaves after that 

I'm sorry for further straying off the subject of shark shields.  The profile of a Hobie AI from beneath may or may not be more enticing to a great white shark, but the larger tri-maran configuration with it's two amas, 4 metal aka bars, and trampolines surrounding the cockpit should serve as a barrier between you and the predator.   And historically, if you can survive the initial attack, you should be okay.  Maybe it's a false sense of security, but I don't plan to go back into sharky waters in anything less.

I bought 2 shark shields; one for me, one for shark_bait.  My reason?  After the feeling I had this day, I would use anything that might deter them.

my fondest wish is that I flushed a grand and change down the toilet and I never find out it doesn't work.

Chuck thinks the Hobie AI has a big enough profile that a shark won't attack it and there are no reports of an AI being attacked that I know of. With the amas it is also the most survivable if the hull is breached.

As I was coming in at Cap on that day I had a few thoughts that the AI in Island style, like I was out there, might just look like a momma and her pup, or similar scenario.  However I would hope that the ama gets hit first, and that it leaves after that 

I'm sorry for further straying off the subject of shark shields.  The profile of a Hobie AI from beneath may or may not be more enticing to a great white shark, but the larger tri-maran configuration with it's two amas, 4 metal aka bars, and trampolines surrounding the cockpit should serve as a barrier between you and the predator.   And historically, if you can survive the initial attack, you should be okay.  Maybe it's a false sense of security, but I don't plan to go back into sharky waters in anything less.

+1  With the tramps on both sides it should fairly look like a boat instead of mama seal and her pups I hope to the GWS.       Somewhat similar to the Hobie Catamarans and those have been around for years now and I have not heard of them being bit.

Rey

I timed my SS battery today and it runs for 5 hours and 45 min.  I bought my SS from Nuvair (Oxnard) and called them.  I was told the 7 hour battery rating is based on the best conditions including 70 degree water.  My battery use is appropriate according to the tech.

He also told me that they mostly receive letters from kayak fishermen regarding SS.  One letter he spoke of was a fisherman watching as a GWS approached on the surface and then went down.  Fearing his doom, the fisherman was happy to see that the shark never returned.  The company rep. told me it's letters like this, that they mostly get regarding SS.