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Topic: Quagga Infestations: San Luis and the Forebay?  (Read 3460 times)

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surfingmarmot

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I guess I've been away too long and missed this, but I read the EBayMUD Quagga Mussel inspection form and they list San Luis and the Forebay as infested regions that will get you banned for 30 days from your last visit to them. Wow. I had no idea.

So what we supposed to do, have a Forebay kayak and an "other waters" one? Or wait 30 days every time we fish the Forebay? Now I need to check the inspection forms for Berry and other waters as well but this is worrisome. Of course, on the bright side, OC has that new kayak out this year I'd like to own and I am working on my pitch to the CFO (Chief Family Officer): "But Honey, I need a second kayak because my Forebay ride isn't good enough for EBayMUD and is banned for 30 days every time I fish the Forebay!"

http://www.ebmud.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/BoatInspectionFormRev0410.pdf




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maybe quaggas are being bred by kayak companies...I sense a bad conspiracy theory movie  :smt003
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maybe quaggas are being bred by kayak companies...I sense a bad conspiracy theory movie  :smt003

LOL. Maybe. It just seems bizarre. If the Quaggas are really in San Luis and the Forebay, then they are in the Delta-Mendota canal (the O'Neill Forebay is the equalizing basin for the canal) and so they are in the entire Delta. If so, then we're done—they've won and we'll have to deal with them from now on. Or, if not, then  EBayMUD is irrationally fearful and San Luis and the Forebay are not infected—they just hate Central valley and SoCal fisherman. Oh well, either way I wonder if visiting those waters flags you for other local lakes like Berryessa or will in the near future.

Oh well, I am in Cork Ireland all week and I am too jet-lagged to be angry right now. Beautiful over here with great fishing, but no one uses kayaks. Cork Harbor looks beautiful and has great fishing—I'd love to kayak fish the ocean here one day.


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Quaggas were first discovered in San Justo Res in Hollister. Guess where it's water is pumped from? San Luis Res. I really doubt they got there hitchhiking on a boat. Not many boats launch(ed) into San Justo and the offender would have to only fished that particular lake...because they haven't been found in any of the other local lakes. 
When they initially discovered the quaggas, I think all of the other lakes began turning away folks whose boats/cars were registered in San Benito Co. Out of fear they would contaminate Coyote, Anderson, Calero, etc. And probably all of the EBMUB lakes too.
IMO if you take care of your yak and follow the protocol for eliminating mussel larvae, you could probably forget to tell the fee-collecting EBMUD kiosk attendant that you recently fished San Luis....and keep a clear conscious.
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surfingmarmot

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Quaggas were first discovered in San Justo Res in Hollister. Guess where it's water is pumped from? San Luis Res. I really doubt they got there hitchhiking on a boat. Not many boats launch(ed) into San Justo and the offender would have to only fished that particular lake...because they haven't been found in any of the other local lakes. 
When they initially discovered the quaggas, I think all of the other lakes began turning away folks whose boats/cars were registered in San Benito Co. Out of fear they would contaminate Coyote, Anderson, Calero, etc. And probably all of the EBMUB lakes too.
IMO if you take care of your yak and follow the protocol for eliminating mussel larvae, you could probably forget to tell the fee-collecting EBMUD kiosk attendant that you recently fished San Luis....and keep a clear conscious.

That makes sense, thanks. Invasive species are rarely stopped especially if they get into a prolific source of irrigation like the Delta-Mendota/San Luis water distribution system. But i understand why we need to try anyway. I'd be curious why they haven't wrecked the turbines at San Luis—haven't heard a thing about their ruining it yet.


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Invasive species are rarely stopped especially if they get into a prolific source of irrigation like the Delta-Mendota/San Luis water distribution system. But i understand why we need to try anyway.
Yeah, but will inspections actually do anything to prevent the spread of them? 
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Yeah, but will inspections actually do anything to prevent the spread of them?

Maybe a little, but too little and too late as you and I both know. Sometimes actions like these inspections are not done to actually prevent something but rather to ensure the bureaucrats and politicians can prove they did something so they can save their own behinds. It's all about them and not about actually accomplishing anything. If the Quagga is in the canals, and it sure seems like it is, then the battle is over and it won. Remember Lake Davis and the Pike infestation? One guy with a pickup truck did that. One guy. ANs millions were spent in poisonings and nettings, and other efforts. the guy called in a radio station once and admitted it. And despite all their efforts, he can do it all over again with minimal effort and force millions more dollars of poisoning and quarantine for years. The thing is the Quagga doesn't even need that one guy. It's quite capable of moving on it's own and it's here to stay.


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Yeah, but will inspections actually do anything to prevent the spread of them?

Maybe a little, but too little and too late as you and I both know. Sometimes actions like these inspections are not done to actually prevent something but rather to ensure the bureaucrats and politicians can prove they did something so they can save their own behinds. It's all about them and not about actually accomplishing anything. If the Quagga is in the canals, and it sure seems like it is, then the battle is over and it won. Remember Lake Davis and the Pike infestation? One guy with a pickup truck did that. One guy. ANs millions were spent in poisonings and nettings, and other efforts. the guy called in a radio station once and admitted it. And despite all their efforts, he can do it all over again with minimal effort and force millions more dollars of poisoning and quarantine for years. The thing is the Quagga doesn't even need that one guy. It's quite capable of moving on it's own and it's here to stay.

<OGs - please forgive the repost of sentiments/thoughts expressed previously>

I love how my particular community requires all watercraft to pass through the non-resident-must-talk-to-the-public-safety-officer lane, to play 20 questions about where your boat has been. Yet, my waders and wading boots, that have literally stood upon inches thick layers of zebra mussels are not interrogated whatsoever.  I'm sure that the same applies to all bodies of water in CA.

And then there are cormorants....

I agree that battles, for the foreseeable future are lost. I still hold out hope for the war though. Perhaps a predator, or a bacterium?

The water in the upper Huron was abso-f--king-lutely clear, all due to the filtration effect of mussels. It was awesome (in the older, more literal sense of the word).

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