The oil spill

  I know some one within BP has probably though "What if this happens" and brought his/her concers to someone else, and was probably shut down by his/her superiors for that thinking.  That person probably feels pretty lousy about now.

Was watching a sunday morning politics/news broadcast and they interviewed the top US BP executive.  They are required to have an emergency disaster plan in place and filed with the feds....I'm guessing that since their plan sucked it was all theory based and nobody was in charge of ensuring that it actually worked. 

While congress was grilling BP one of the officials commented that they appear to be making this shit up as they go along.....so true.  Incompetent !@$ks.

It has been said by critics of how BP is handling this is still more like a Business deal than a true effort to stop the spill...

They Found a Gusher...  and they want it...  Other Countries are Giving ideas how to stop this, but it will ruin the well....  unbelievable....

One way to stop this is to detonate a Nuke... No shit ..,  a Nuke...  

 But that is where BP becomes Green.....  

Mean while, I have been following this Bayou KayakFishng Club website...  they were still trying to make a Big Tournament happen this weekend that had been planned...



switching the location by the Hour, Lots of closures, still don't know if there going to make it.... it's really settling in now that their way of life is changing

 here is the forum link....

 http://www.bckfc.org/showthread.php?476-Oil-Spill&p=5881#post5881

 I even heard there is web site, set up by BP, that one can send suggestions on how to cap the well.....

  Not Good      

 

 

  I figure that BP has an emergency disaster plan, as do most big corporation (I suspect) but this gussher is totally out of its juristction.  Complete fail!  Until shit like this startes to hit them in their pocket book, whats to keep it from happening again?  Hell stick a damn funnel connected to a pipeline over the darn thing to at least contain the leak into something they can direct to a holding.  Surely there has to be some kind of deep diving rover that can handle this?
 

Ever since I was a kid watching good 'ole Jacque C on the tube I knew mankind was going to screw this planet up beyond its capacity to sustain life as we know, how could it not, we are the smartest rats in the cage, we have power over everything else in the cage, and the cage is getting smaller by the minute, not really our fault, its the law of entropy, thermodynamics, even karma, but im sticking to entropy myself, and still think what counts is how we treat others in the end, but watch our back at the same time. Ive had some Sake tonight. Can anyone back me up on my entropy theory or at least a good definition of it...

Entropy is a measure of how disorganized a system is.

Good insight Ben. Who says drinking makes ya stupid???? 

GREED, in my not-so-humble opinion plays a HUGE part in this fiasco.

Sure, the oil co is providing something we all use and need, but they damn well could have spent the (relatively minute amount of) money to develop AND TEST fail-safe prevention and contingency systems before drilling out there. But why blow your bonus money on such trivialities?

GREED and short-sightedness - LOTS of our man-made ills can be traced back to it.

Ever since I was a kid watching good 'ole Jacque C on the tube I knew mankind was going to screw this planet up beyond its capacity to sustain life as we know, how could it not, we are the smartest rats in the cage, we have power over everything else in the cage, and the cage is getting smaller by the minute, not really our fault, its the law of entropy, thermodynamics, even karma, but im sticking to entropy myself, and still think what counts is how we treat others in the end, but watch our back at the same time. Ive had some Sake tonight. Can anyone back me up on my entropy theory or at least a good definition of it...

Ben, in one word (being somewhat politically correct, and realizing that your heart is in the right place): Nonsense.

Life exists in niches on this planet that are mind boggling. Life has existed on this planet, in conditions that humans could not survive, for geological epochs. Could we somehow transform the planet into something making human existence utterly miserable, perhaps impossible? Possibly. Is it likely? Much less possible, as while people are mostly reactionary instead of "proactionary", we aren't completely stupid. Wiping out all life on the planet? Virtually impossible, although perhaps by releasing a few quantum black holes into the planet's core?

As for entropy, well, that's always a one way street.  Everything trends towards disorder, human action aside.

As to the spill in question, well it's never a good thing to shit in one's nest, however I'm willing to bet that long term macro effects of this are going to be negligible. Look at the long term effects of the Ixtoc oil spill in the same region. You know, the worlds largest accidental oil spill, ever. Ixtoc I released 140 million gallons of crude into the Gulf of Mexico. Yet somehow in the furor over this particular spill, Ixtoc I seems to have been forgotten by the media fanning the flames of crisis and fear.

My own  take-aways from this spill:
Mandate remote activated BOPs
Develop methodology and equipment to contain and sequester accidentally released oil at depth, rather than at the surface
Take off hair shirt
Go fishing

Scott

The fastest cure for the spill.

Scott...

  Are you saying it might be a Good Time to Buy Beach property in The Gulf?.....

The fastest cure for the spill.

Thats what I'm talkin about....then we can gather all the dead wildlife and slap chop em right into a salad.   

The fastest cure for the spill.

Thats what I'm talkin about....then we can gather all the dead wildlife and slap chop em right into a salad.   

with onions and you won't even cry. 
Just watch your nutz.

Ever since I was a kid watching good 'ole Jacque C on the tube I knew mankind was going to screw this planet up beyond its capacity to sustain life as we know, how could it not, we are the smartest rats in the cage, we have power over everything else in the cage, and the cage is getting smaller by the minute, not really our fault, its the law of entropy, thermodynamics, even karma, but im sticking to entropy myself, and still think what counts is how we treat others in the end, but watch our back at the same time. Ive had some Sake tonight. Can anyone back me up on my entropy theory or at least a good definition of it...

Ben, in one word (being somewhat politically correct, and realizing that your heart is in the right place): Nonsense.

Life exists in niches on this planet that are mind boggling. Life has existed on this planet, in conditions that humans could not survive, for geological epochs. Could we somehow transform the planet into something making human existence utterly miserable, perhaps impossible? Possibly. Is it likely? Much less possible, as while people are mostly reactionary instead of "proactionary", we aren't completely stupid. Wiping out all life on the planet? Virtually impossible, although perhaps by releasing a few quantum black holes into the planet's core?

As for entropy, well, that's always a one way street.  Everything trends towards disorder, human action aside.

As to the spill in question, well it's never a good thing to shit in one's nest, however I'm willing to bet that long term macro effects of this are going to be negligible. Look at the long term effects of the Ixtoc oil spill in the same region. You know, the worlds largest accidental oil spill, ever. Ixtoc I released 140 million gallons of crude into the Gulf of Mexico. Yet somehow in the furor over this particular spill, Ixtoc I seems to have been forgotten by the media fanning the flames of crisis and fear.

My own  take-aways from this spill:
Mandate remote activated BOPs
Develop methodology and equipment to contain and sequester accidentally released oil at depth, rather than at the surface
Take off hair shirt
Go fishing

Scott

Nonsense is better than BS, but I have to point out that we already screwed the planet to sustain life as we know, key words here Scott- as we know. Worldwide extinctions have been happening exponentially for 10 plus years now up and down the chain, sure there will always be life, but I think most of it will be extinct or real close within a few of our lifetimes no matter what we do, we can slow it down do some degree, but it cant be stopped, entropy happens with or without us, but we speeded it up by a few million years with our personal desire to make and stash huge piles of money.
Also that power I was implying about us having to wipe out life included our nukes, pollution and other crap, it would take a lot more than an oil spill.
Get some fishing while you can! Ben

whoever says this aint that bad= is just another MONEY HUNGRY $ON OF A BITCH! 
thatBITCHbeNOTourMOTHER EARTH   

Nonsense is better than BS, but I have to point out that we already screwed the planet to sustain life as we know, key words here Scott- as we know. Worldwide extinctions have been happening exponentially for 10 plus years now up and down the chain, sure there will always be life, but I think most of it will be extinct or real close within a few of our lifetimes no matter what we do, we can slow it down do some degree, but it cant be stopped, entropy happens with or without us, but we speeded it up by a few million years with our personal desire to make and stash huge piles of money.
Also that power I was implying about us having to wipe out life included our nukes, pollution and other crap, it would take a lot more than an oil spill.
Get some fishing while you can! Ben

Ben,

While scientists say that extinctions have risen exponentially in the past "X" years, the list of actual extinct species has barely changed. Mathematical models != reality. So, why don't you tell me how many species went extinct in the past 10 years, versus 1900-1910? Want to bet that there weren't more extinctions a century ago, pre-EPA, pre-ESA?

As for personal changes in "life as I know it", nothing's really changed on the macro scale. About the only thing I've noticed, outside of the Salmon dropping drastically from its highs in 2005, is that there are far fewer California Newts around than there used to be. Of course, I'm not a North Coast Steelhead angler.

What has disappeared from your life in the past 30 years? What has disappeared from Prince William Sound in the past 30 years? What has disappeared from the Gulf of Mexico since Ixtoc I in 1979?

Again, I feel like we need to be careful, but I'm not going to be Chicken Little. That's just silly.

whoever says this aint that bad= is just another MONEY HUNGRY $ON OF A BITCH! thatBITCHbeNOTourMOTHER EARTH

Yep. I'm saying that in 5-10 years, nobody's going to pay much attention to results of this spill. And I don't stand to make a single penny off of the oil companies.  PWS and Ixtoc I are my reasons for stating this. Do you have any facts to back up your claims?

Scott

Live streaming video added!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37257629/ns/gulf_oil_spill/?GT1=43001