I could live without healthcare reform! How about you?

Government protecting your business interests = Good
Government protecting your access to health care = Bad

I guess I finally understand ...  or not   

Unless it's inconvenient/painful, then you want the government to step in. Ocean, you have got to see how this doesn't speak well of your thinking.

lol...you forgot:

I want illegal immigrants that will cut grapes at my buddies winery all season for dirt cheap wages and no benefits but they better stay the eff out of my hospitals and ER's if they get sick while they're here.

Government protecting your business interests = Good
Government protecting your access to health care = Bad

I guess I finally understand ...  or not   

Unless it's inconvenient/painful, then you want the government to step in. Ocean, you have got to see how this doesn't speak well of your thinking.

lol...you forgot:

I want illegal immigrants that will cut grapes at my buddies winery all season for dirt cheap wages and no benefits but they better stay the eff out of my hospitals and ER's if they get sick while they're here.

Those guys cutting brapes make 80 to 100 dollars a day, they are in excellent shape and dont need the ER. they are what this coutry is all about come here work hard and then become a citizen if you want. they dont want citizenship, they make a ton of money for them during the harvests and then go home to their village and live like a king for the rest of the year.

Its the mexicans that get sick and come across the border only for the purpose of walking into the ER thats the problem

Business and our society has established rules that we must abide to...

Business establishes the rules?

Now that's an interesting interpretation of the Constitution. But this belief does finally explain your proclivity for diverting attention from the actual problem.

Ocean - I'm not sure that weight issues are the only health problems in this country. And speaking of weight problems, what was the nutritional content of your snack product?

You seem very judgmental. If your business had failed would you have blamed yourself for not trying or the government for somehow hindering you? I guess it's easy to judge when you're doing the judging.

Anyhow, I don't see for a second how the city offering housing to homeless people affects you.

My poroduct 100% fat free. The company went from 0 to 50m in three years and we where building a second plant to go to 100m and a public offering when Clinton took the rules off of business. My investors lost 25m. The resulting lawsits as put options where exercised cost me the 3m i made and banked.

Frieto Lay went form 3.2Billion to 7 Billion in a couple of years as they had 100% of all the shelf space for salty snack foods in the US. 12 companies with sales from 30 to 150m where driven out of business and about 10,000 jobs where lost.

This happened in every isle of the supermarket every big company inn eveyr catorgary bought up all the shelf space in that catorgery and trhew all their smaller competitors off the shelf.

If you ever wonder why food is so expsnsive in this country its because only a few big food companies own all the differnt labels and control the food prices. This is the reality of the Clinton Presidency.

Interesting story, I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out. What was the product called? Is it still available?

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Ocean - I'm not sure that weight issues are the only health problems in this country. And speaking of weight problems, what was the nutritional content of your snack product?

You seem very judgmental. If your business had failed would you have blamed yourself for not trying or the government for somehow hindering you? I guess it's easy to judge when you're doing the judging.

Anyhow, I don't see for a second how the city offering housing to homeless people affects you.

My poroduct 100% fat free. The company went from 0 to 50m in three years and we where building a second plant to go to 100m and a public offering when Clinton took the rules off of business. My investors lost 25m. The resulting lawsits as put options where exercised cost me the 3m i made and banked.

Frieto Lay went form 3.2Billion to 7 Billion in a couple of years as they had 100% of all the shelf space for salty snack foods in the US. 12 companies with sales from 30 to 150m where driven out of business and about 10,000 jobs where lost.

This happened in every isle of the supermarket every big company inn eveyr catorgary bought up all the shelf space in that catorgery and trhew all their smaller competitors off the shelf.

If you ever wonder why food is so expsnsive in this country its because only a few big food companies own all the differnt labels and control the food prices. This is the reality of the Clinton Presidency.

Interesting story, I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out. What was the product called? Is it still available?

Not availble, but i still own the patents on the tecnology. Freito Lay still owns 80% of the shelf space and controls who is allowed into the supermarkets in their product catgory. I did a little Tv with this product and i dont like the social results so i wont tell you want the product was. while the Frieto thing was happening the unions where also trying to unionize us, the VC told me to retire at 32 becuse i was way out of my leauge trying to run the company. when i saw that things didnt look good i devolped a line of speciality sauces that i sold to Costco and Sam's clubs stores nationally. I sold this business in 02 at my wife's insistance so she could go full time with her business and so i would be home once in a while.

I made a couple million off of the sales but when to company went bankrupt some of the pirmary investers exercised their put options and the resulting lawsuits cost me that money in legal fees.

Business and our society has established rules that we must abide to...

Business establishes the rules?

Now that's an interesting interpretation of the Constitution. But this belief does finally explain your proclivity for diverting attention from the actual problem.

Well shows you that i am not perfect! had my kids believing this until they where four! Santa won out!

Business has rules to follow, they are put in place to level the playing field and safe guard society, Clinton, by not enforcing any laws took these rules off and now society is paying a huge price.
We have just seen the begining of the damage Clinton has done, the fixed pensions are 45 trillion in the hole becuase of the dot com scam and the housing scam, all taxes are going to go through the roof to pay for the public employee pensions and those that have private pensions are not going to be able to reitre until they are in their 80's.

I did a little Tv with this product and i dont like the social results so i wont tell you want the product was.

More interesting still. What do you mean by "social results"? People chasing you everywhere asking for an autograph?

Hmm fat free snacks with unfavorable "social results"....

Does anyone remember olestra in fat free products like potato chips?  People were pretty stoked to eat fat free chips until a few studies came out and the FDA mandated the following on every package.

"This Product Contains Olestra. Olestra may cause abdominal cramping and loose stools..."   

According to the wikipedia page on Olestra, this was a Protor & Gamble deal so I'm pretty sure we can't blame Ocean_314 for any snack induced anal leakage we may have suffered.   


Brian

lol you guys are guessing. Olestra was devolped by P&G and licensed to Freito lay which used it to make their WOW chips. How Olestra was discovered is really interesting but to much to type.

what happened to me when i did some TV was that people would appraoch me thinking i was rich, i wasnt at the time, and offer me deals or ask me for money. Women would present their bods for me in exchange for....It was sickening.
I dont see how anyone can stand to be famous, you must have one hell of an ego to want to be a actor.

Here you go guys if you want to try to figure out what my product was, mid 90's every supermarket in the US. It was on Oprah and in all the health magizenes. Prevention mag ran lots of stories about the whole thing from idea to fishished product in the stores.

Have fun!

 

It's getting pretty deep ...

people would appraoch me thinking i was rich, i wasnt at the time, and offer me deals or ask me for money. Women would present their bods for me in exchange for....

Since you're no longer on the market you don't have to fear the "undesirable social results" above

Women would present their bods for me in exchange for....It was sickening.

by sickening, you mean one of 'em gave you the herp, the clap, or non-dungeness crabs?  IDK any chicks who will ho theyself out for snackfood!  Even after they've inhaled some Ukiah premium boondah. 

c'mon man, try and keep it semi on the real 

It was really disgusting being reconized by people for being on Tv with a successful business, the gold diggers came out of the wood work. Check out what happens to someone when they win the lotto.

It was so bad that i refused to go on TV again after the first month, i the cfo go on tv instead.

It's getting pretty deep ...