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Topic: Obvious coho/silver salmon illegal retained, YouTube chnl FISHERMAN CHRONICLES  (Read 10104 times)

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AlexB

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Correct…. A kayaker by the name of 415FishingFanatic posted this on Coastside… (I zoomed in and cropped, but didn’t mess with the photo any other way).


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Nolanduke

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Does DFG monitor these sites?  It seems like posting pictures repeatedly of illegal takes really incriminates oneself.  I guess they would need to match screenname with person...  He is not doing a very good job of hiding his location and habits, including killing cohos.  Even if there was a chance of leniency for first time offenders, twice in a week is pretty bad, especially when many folks have called it out in a semi-educational way. 


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Think they mean same guy on Coast Side?
Agree

Same guy nudling was referring to 1st time on CS

correct, i was replying to nudlings post about the one on CS from last week

Ah gotcha. 
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Sometimes they will even address the mistake and show contrition.
It would be better to own up to the mistake and show you are as human as anyone else.  At least to me that is still good content, they shouldn't dismiss it since it's not a prize because it is an experience.
If he had made the error, apologized, taken the video down and used the experience to change his ways moving forward ... all good.

I hadn't heard of this Youtuber before, so after reading this thread, I went to see his channel to see if the latest vid being spoken of today was on there.  I'm in no way defending his actions, but more just ensuring we are all looking at all pieces of the puzzle.  It appears he may have (albeit late) written an apology and made an attempt to right the wrong.  Does it excuse the actions? Of course not, but it might indicate that he wants to right the wrong to the best of his abilities. 

From his "Community" page on his channel
Quote
Hi everyone,

Two weeks ago, I posted a video of my first time salmon fishing in the ocean. In the video, I failed to identify a Coho/ Silver salmon, and mistook it for a King/ Chinook salmon. I uploaded the video and then, realizing my mistake, took it down, edited it, and re-uploaded it in hopes of still being able to share my first time catching a salmon.

I fear some people may have interpreted malicious intent from my actions, but I promise that although I made a grave mistake, doing so was never my intention. If I had known the salmon was a coho and not a king, I would have released it immediately. I understand that as a fisherman, it is my responsibility to be able to identify fish species and be informed on the legal policies regarding keeping them, and promise to do better in that regard. I will not make the same mistake again.

I want you all to know that I am still learning (a ton). My fishing and fishing practices are by no means perfect, but the more experience I get and the more I learn, the better my practices will become. I fish to immerse myself in nature and experience it not just as an observer, but as an interacting part of it. Nature is one of the most important aspects of my life and person, and I would never knowingly damage an ecosystem, in fact, I want to restore nature. In college, I am majoring in Environmental Biology to then go into conservation, which has been my lifelong passion.

I hope reading this can give you some context behind my actions, and I want all of you to know I am working and will continue working on becoming better informed and always implementing the best fishing practices I can.

To give back, I am signing up for an ongoing $10 monthly donation to SPAWN, an organization dedicated to protecting the native Coho salmon population in the Lagunitas Creek Water Shed -- from Mt. Tamalpais to Tomales Bay (link below).

https://seaturtles.org/our-work/our-p...

I appreciate everyone's understanding and empathy,

Ilan

Link to the post: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxldJRUtyrqGB3N6FYcm8gQ1q1v9u10_iR

That is a good response.  I saw some people were still giving him shit for it which is unfortunate.  This kind of thing is exactly what I would hope to see in this situation and his explanation seems genuine to me.
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Does DFG monitor these sites?  It seems like posting pictures repeatedly of illegal takes really incriminates oneself.  I guess they would need to match screenname with person...  He is not doing a very good job of hiding his location and habits, including killing cohos.  Even if there was a chance of leniency for first time offenders, twice in a week is pretty bad, especially when many folks have called it out in a semi-educational way.
I really doubt DFW monitors NCKA or Coastside, unless by chance a few of their employees are anglers, too…

I don’t think the financial side pans out when you compare the required man hours to the potential “prize” of a single coho citation. They have bigger fish to fry, so to speak… (Sturgeon poaching operations, for example.)


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Nolanduke

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Does DFG monitor these sites?  It seems like posting pictures repeatedly of illegal takes really incriminates oneself.  I guess they would need to match screenname with person...  He is not doing a very good job of hiding his location and habits, including killing cohos.  Even if there was a chance of leniency for first time offenders, twice in a week is pretty bad, especially when many folks have called it out in a semi-educational way.
I really doubt DFW monitors NCKA or Coastside, unless by chance a few of their employees are anglers, too…

I don’t think the financial side pans out when you compare the required man hours to the potential “prize” of a single coho citation. They have bigger fish to fry, so to speak… (Sturgeon poaching operations, for example.)


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Right on... still though, Id be paranoid and would probably, at minimum, remove the photos... not that that is possible now.  What goes on the internets, stays on the internets! 


crash

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Does DFG monitor these sites?  It seems like posting pictures repeatedly of illegal takes really incriminates oneself.  I guess they would need to match screenname with person...  He is not doing a very good job of hiding his location and habits, including killing cohos.  Even if there was a chance of leniency for first time offenders, twice in a week is pretty bad, especially when many folks have called it out in a semi-educational way.
I really doubt DFW monitors NCKA or Coastside, unless by chance a few of their employees are anglers, too…

I don’t think the financial side pans out when you compare the required man hours to the potential “prize” of a single coho citation. They have bigger fish to fry, so to speak… (Sturgeon poaching operations, for example.)


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They don't have to monitor NCKA or Coastside.  If you post something blatantly illegal there's a good chance someone will forward it to DFW or Cal TIP.
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Sometimes they will even address the mistake and show contrition.
It would be better to own up to the mistake and show you are as human as anyone else.  At least to me that is still good content, they shouldn't dismiss it since it's not a prize because it is an experience.
If he had made the error, apologized, taken the video down and used the experience to change his ways moving forward ... all good.

I hadn't heard of this Youtuber before, so after reading this thread, I went to see his channel to see if the latest vid being spoken of today was on there.  I'm in no way defending his actions, but more just ensuring we are all looking at all pieces of the puzzle.  It appears he may have (albeit late) written an apology and made an attempt to right the wrong.  Does it excuse the actions? Of course not, but it might indicate that he wants to right the wrong to the best of his abilities. 

From his "Community" page on his channel
Quote
Hi everyone,

Two weeks ago, I posted a video of my first time salmon fishing in the ocean. In the video, I failed to identify a Coho/ Silver salmon, and mistook it for a King/ Chinook salmon. I uploaded the video and then, realizing my mistake, took it down, edited it, and re-uploaded it in hopes of still being able to share my first time catching a salmon.

I fear some people may have interpreted malicious intent from my actions, but I promise that although I made a grave mistake, doing so was never my intention. If I had known the salmon was a coho and not a king, I would have released it immediately. I understand that as a fisherman, it is my responsibility to be able to identify fish species and be informed on the legal policies regarding keeping them, and promise to do better in that regard. I will not make the same mistake again.

I want you all to know that I am still learning (a ton). My fishing and fishing practices are by no means perfect, but the more experience I get and the more I learn, the better my practices will become. I fish to immerse myself in nature and experience it not just as an observer, but as an interacting part of it. Nature is one of the most important aspects of my life and person, and I would never knowingly damage an ecosystem, in fact, I want to restore nature. In college, I am majoring in Environmental Biology to then go into conservation, which has been my lifelong passion.

I hope reading this can give you some context behind my actions, and I want all of you to know I am working and will continue working on becoming better informed and always implementing the best fishing practices I can.

To give back, I am signing up for an ongoing $10 monthly donation to SPAWN, an organization dedicated to protecting the native Coho salmon population in the Lagunitas Creek Water Shed -- from Mt. Tamalpais to Tomales Bay (link below).

https://seaturtles.org/our-work/our-p...

I appreciate everyone's understanding and empathy,

Ilan

Link to the post: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxldJRUtyrqGB3N6FYcm8gQ1q1v9u10_iR


Sigh. I guess it’s the dad in me. This is a really nice post and letter to the community. Ok Mr. Ilan, props to you. Respectable to address your mistake in this way. Fish on, hope you catch many more big ones  :smt006
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Sometimes they will even address the mistake and show contrition.
It would be better to own up to the mistake and show you are as human as anyone else.  At least to me that is still good content, they shouldn't dismiss it since it's not a prize because it is an experience.
If he had made the error, apologized, taken the video down and used the experience to change his ways moving forward ... all good.

I hadn't heard of this Youtuber before, so after reading this thread, I went to see his channel to see if the latest vid being spoken of today was on there.  I'm in no way defending his actions, but more just ensuring we are all looking at all pieces of the puzzle.  It appears he may have (albeit late) written an apology and made an attempt to right the wrong.  Does it excuse the actions? Of course not, but it might indicate that he wants to right the wrong to the best of his abilities. 

From his "Community" page on his channel
Quote
Hi everyone,

Two weeks ago, I posted a video of my first time salmon fishing in the ocean. In the video, I failed to identify a Coho/ Silver salmon, and mistook it for a King/ Chinook salmon. I uploaded the video and then, realizing my mistake, took it down, edited it, and re-uploaded it in hopes of still being able to share my first time catching a salmon.

I fear some people may have interpreted malicious intent from my actions, but I promise that although I made a grave mistake, doing so was never my intention. If I had known the salmon was a coho and not a king, I would have released it immediately. I understand that as a fisherman, it is my responsibility to be able to identify fish species and be informed on the legal policies regarding keeping them, and promise to do better in that regard. I will not make the same mistake again.

I want you all to know that I am still learning (a ton). My fishing and fishing practices are by no means perfect, but the more experience I get and the more I learn, the better my practices will become. I fish to immerse myself in nature and experience it not just as an observer, but as an interacting part of it. Nature is one of the most important aspects of my life and person, and I would never knowingly damage an ecosystem, in fact, I want to restore nature. In college, I am majoring in Environmental Biology to then go into conservation, which has been my lifelong passion.

I hope reading this can give you some context behind my actions, and I want all of you to know I am working and will continue working on becoming better informed and always implementing the best fishing practices I can.

To give back, I am signing up for an ongoing $10 monthly donation to SPAWN, an organization dedicated to protecting the native Coho salmon population in the Lagunitas Creek Water Shed -- from Mt. Tamalpais to Tomales Bay (link below).

https://seaturtles.org/our-work/our-p...

I appreciate everyone's understanding and empathy,

Ilan

Link to the post: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxldJRUtyrqGB3N6FYcm8gQ1q1v9u10_iR


Sigh. I guess it’s the dad in me. This is a really nice post and letter to the community. Ok Mr. Ilan, props to you. Respectable to address your mistake in this way. Fish on, hope you catch many more big ones  :smt006
Calm down dad...I wonder what coho tastes like... :smt005 :smt006
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