Boating accident

with all the people in that boat and going that fast is plain stupid. No matter how much experience. First how many people were not in seats. Second if a couple lost balance. The weight distribution will effect the way a boat handles. We own a 30 ft twin Sea Ray and with less than that amount of people effects the ride. Not to mention the speed. I wear my pdf always when on the salt no matter what I'm in. It is hard to put one on if you wait for a problem. I think the guy was idiot just for the things I observed. I didn't have to see what he saw in front of him. I love speed but there is a proper time and place. This wasn't it way too many on the boat. I think he was trying to impress someone in the bikini.

Wow, that did not look fun...bet they all woke up sore the next morning. 

I've had my 17' tin can do weird stuff I don't expect when I catch a wake just wrong, and that's at 25 mph with only 50HP.  I can only imagine how squirly it can get at 70mph with unlimited HP. 




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It's kind of like kayaks, the longer the better it tracks. That is a 38' boat. It will track very well at high speed, depending on how the drives and trim plates are trimmed.  Your power to weight ratio is probably about the same as that Fountain Wes. That boat weighs around 9000 lbs and has typically between 1000-1400 HP.  .1-.15 HP per pound. Your 50 horse boat weighs maybe 4-500lbs. .1 per pound. I've had my direct drive ski boat toss me around when crossing wakes before too like you in your small boat.

I've driven several boats like that with 5-7passengers. I have never felt movement from passengers around the boat at speed. When you are cruising slow you will feel it. At 50-70mph you will not notice it in a boat like that. About the only thing that will cause a boat to do what that one did is hitting a wave or wake just the wrong way, or mechanical failure. The two deaths I've seen at races were both caused by big boat wakes. Actually every crash I've seen at offshore races were caused by rogue wakes.

I think it is total stupidity for anyone to go in the ocean and fish in a kayak because there are sharks out there and people have already been attacked. How does that sound coming from people who have never been in a kayak?

I still hate to sound like I'm defending this guy, but again, till you have been in a boat like that, or driven one like that, you all should not comment on how "unsafe" they are. Bottom line it was a bad deal, but they are all alive.

Sorry, I'm done.

Pfd's wouldn't have saved many faces that day.  Where's all this anger and misplaced judgement coming from guys? Especially about pfd's?

The boat was purpose built to fricken go fast.  That's why it was going fast....its what it does.  The guy was driving fast because he can, its what he wanted to do. 

I'm not as lucky as Rob riding around in them high dollar machines but we used to get my dads buddies jet boat out on the delta evenings once the water turned to glass and hit speeds up to 70.  And that was in a 17'er. No pfd's.....im still alive and we never had any incidents. It happens everyday without incident. 

You guys realize there's another set of kooks out there asking similar questions when one of our brothers gets hit by a shark? Fishing off small plastic boats isn't exactly the smartest thing on the planet, yet its what we do. Keep an open mind.

This guy clearly got slammed by a crossed up wake, I'm convinced that once he got thrown from the helm the wheel spun all the way to one side which caused the rest of the chaos.  It happens. 

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It happens. 

Not if my man is going slow, it dont happen

Wanna bet....lets hit the bay looking for crossed up ferry wakes at 10 knots and see how long you stay planted on the deck.

DAMN! when its slow motion and the guy hits the ground his sun glasses go flying up! crazy!

Wanna bet....lets hit the bay looking for crossed up ferry wakes at 10 knots and see how long you stay planted on the deck.

That is where I saw one racer die. Ferry wake. The ferry boats were told by the CG to stay clear for the duration of the race and one cut the course and caused Clarks death.

I have been in a fast boat. Sucks the fluid out of a can through the tab hole. Turned so fast it would throw you out if not braced inside or belted in. It is pure stupidity to go so fast while people are standing inside the boat. As for the shark comment I consider the source if someone has never been out. But your defense of this guy is as in the same class as the guy who never kayaked. Just my opinion and you know what they say about those. I have seen a guy whom exploded a boat and the steering column went up his rectum. Fast is great if on a course during a race with all the safety gear and some common sense. None of which was displayed during this video. I'm sure the guys who I know would tell you he is an a$$. Google Mira Slovack I personally know that is exactly what he would say.   

Standing is by far the best way to ride in that style of boat at speed. They do not turn fast enough to throw you out. If you turn fast enough to get thrown out in a boat like that you get the same result as in the video. In a turn you will be pushed down more than up or out.

"But your defense of this guy is as in the same class as the guy who never kayaked"     
If you are refering to something I said here I also said I'm not defending what he did. I am defending this style of PB and the fact that most, if not all of you, have never been in a 10000 lb boat at 80-100 mph and have any clue what it is like. I've been 110 in a drag boat and personally would never do it again. People do every day, but it is not for me. But I have done it and have a personal reference as to why I would not do it again. I can arrange a day to go out in something like this in SoCal anytime you want. Up here in Nor cal there is a possibility, but I don't have the connections like I do down south. Once you have been in one then I will respect your opinion of these boats and how they react.
"Fast is great if on a course during a race with all the safety gear and some common sense"
So what you are saying is that I should not get in my sisters boat and drive to Catalina Island at 75 mph for lunch? But it is ok for 100 other people to ride the hydro ferry over there at the same speed while walking around that boat not wearing safety gear.

Your reference to Mira is again not a good point. He raced a long time ago in a completely different style of boat. He would be the first to tell you there is no comparison between the two boats.

I was not going to post in this again, but when I hear comments from people who still have no idea, I need to respond.

Ok now I am done. If anyone wants to debate this further, call me 916-202-2631
 

I think there is more to this video than what we are seeing. That boat in my guess was not going more than 55-60 mph. I read a review for a 38 ft. fountain with 1400 hp at 9000 lbs. boat takes 20 seconds to get to 63 mph and at 18 sec mark things started to happen and at the 20 sec. mark is when he started to go sideways. I wonder if something broke or maybe he was trying to avoid some thing. I have 35 years worth of power boating experience and it seems something is not right in this video. I don't believe the guy was being wreckless. But sometimes things happen for no good reason.

There was a cut in the video. It started out normal but instantly went to full speed after some editing. The middle part of the ride was cut out.

I have personally been at the helm of a fast mOving powerboat when the stearing linkage came free.  It's a real ass pucker for sure.  Luckily the boat slid as well as it went forward and nobody was injured.

Be it luck or experience, luckily nobody was killed in their incident.  I agree,  sure there is more to that video both before and after.

The video I saw originally had other boats there right away. The people on the incident boat were asking for help from the other boats. The incident boat was still running after the spin and in gear I think. You know what? Now that I think about it, it was running but not moving more than a drift. And the drives were ingaged, at least on the controls. Maybe they did break the drives. Could have broke after the crash though.

I totally agree that any mechanized craft thats on any body of water should be licensed. Problem is you hardly see cops on water patrol  And most of the time, reports and complaints about errant boaters / jet skiers go down the drain because these WCI (world class idiots)  get away before you even make it back to the dock.

*bring your go-pro, camera and record these WCI and REPORT them. It's the only way the authorities can act on it....I think or at least I should hope so.

I'm glad that Parkside Aquatic park in San Mateo has these guys on active duty...