Hobie Revo vs Old town predator PDL

I am torn between the two. Any thoughts on both kayaks? Ocean fishing

Huge difference between the two.  A better comparison would be the outback with the PDL.  What do you value on the water?  Speed, stability, lot of gear, etc? 

What exactly are you torn about? I have a Revo 13 and can say it's much lighter/narrower than the Old town. Also, there's a bunch of people on this forum that can help you out if you went with a Hobie.

What type of fishing are you going to be mainly doing? That's going to be a big factor into your decision. Like are you planning to do alot of surf launches, etc?

Huge difference between the two.  A better comparison would be the outback with the PDL.  What do you value on the water?  Speed, stability, lot of gear, etc?

The Outback and the PDL are both well outfitted for fishing.  I have a Revolution, and it's fast, but it has the worse outfitting for fishing of any pedal kayak I know of.  You can buy "fishing kayaks" at Walmart which are better outfitted for fishing than the Revolution.  It only has two molded rod holders behind the seat, where they are only useful for storing rods, because when trolling you can't monitor the tip of a rod which is behind you for strikes.  And the gunwales are narrow both on the outside and on the inside, and poorly suited for adding fishing gear.  I have outfitted my Revolution rather nicely for fishing, including rigging it for a downrigger, but the outfitting required a fair amount of work and creativity.  Hobie has done nothing to improve the outfitting and design of the Revolution for many years.  If you want to buy a Hobie for fishing, the Outback would be a much better choice.

Huge difference between the two.  A better comparison would be the outback with the PDL.  What do you value on the water?  Speed, stability, lot of gear, etc?

The Outback and the PDL are both well outfitted for fishing.  I have a Revolution, and it's fast, but it has the worse outfitting for fishing of any pedal kayak I know of.  You can buy "fishing kayaks" at Walmart which are better outfitted for fishing than the Revolution.  It only has two molded rod holders behind the seat, where they are only useful for storing rods, because when trolling you can't monitor the tip of a rod which is behind you for strikes.  And the gunwales are narrow both on the outside and on the inside, and poorly suited for adding fishing gear.  I have outfitted my Revolution rather nicely for fishing, including rigging it for a downrigger, but the outfitting required a fair amount of work and creativity.  Hobie has done nothing to improve the outfitting and design of the Revolution for many years.  If you want to buy a Hobie for fishing, the Outback would be a much better choice.

It's true the Revo doesn't have a whole lot of space for outfitting. Kind of a blessing/curse as it's forces me to take a minimalist approach to kayak fishing and not bring so much $hit 

There is a spirited discussion comparing the Hobie pedal kayaks with Old Town's pedal kayaks at http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=92361.msg1043011#msg1043011.

There is a spirited discussion comparing the Hobie pedal kayaks with Old Town's pedal kayaks at http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=92361.msg1043011#msg1043011.

I was never wet until I am in a Hobie.  I personally it's a good idea to demo different yaks.  Lots of people worship Hobie, there is positives about the Hobies for sure, but there are some cons too (expensive everything being one). 

love my revo 13. I use it for almost every variety of fishing. Ive even done some boat in camping with it and loaded it down with all my camping stuff/food/everything else. No problems with gear storage or rigging ability if youre creative

Far as I can tell, the only thing going against the Revo is price and bow design if you're riding a wave in. The bow likes to bury itself underwater, causing the boat to tip in the blink of an eye.

I own a Revo 16 and a Revo 13; I can car top both by myself (on an SUV), and I'm able to bring all the fishing gear that I need (downrigger, cooler, couple of rods, FF). I don't think I'd get another peddle kayak - I favor speed over bringing everything but the kitchen sink.

Hobie had a corner on the market for a long time; I suspect that's why their prices are so astronomical.

Different boats for different folks. If you're not sure what you want, you should try 'em both out. You literally have nothing to lose doing that.

There is a spirited discussion comparing the Hobie pedal kayaks with Old Town's pedal kayaks at http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=92361.msg1043011#msg1043011.

I was just going to ask... where is AnnieAreYouOK?

I have outfitted my Revolution rather nicely for fishing, including rigging it for a downrigger, but the outfitting required a fair amount of work and creativity.

That's half the fun...

I agree that the old town predator is closer to the outback. I have an outback and it is a great boat but i am going to be switching to a revo instead with it being a pain in the ass to load. I dont need the added stability of the outback compared to the revo. The revo is plenty stable and significantly faster from what i have tried. You are welcome to test out my outback if you want once the fires die down around here. I imagine all of the boats will work out for you its just a preference of what your looking for in them. the revo should be like 70-80 pounds and i think the old town is like 115 pounds if i remember right. The outback should be like 105 pounds so if loading is an issue or concern id go with the revo. I want to switch to the revo from the heavier boat becuase i find that since buying it i fish significantly less. I dont go on 2-3 kayak trips in the sloughs anymore becuase its a pain in the ass to load the heavier boat. When i had a lighter boat i didnt mind doing it more often.

Great info thank you all. I currently fish a predator XL. I love it. Great kayak. Thought process was to upgrade to the PDL version as it has all the same features. The reason the revo peaked my interest is speed, how much lighter it is than the Predator, and handling big waves. With a Revo I think I could probably make some long distance voyages very easily. I like being able to have a huge amount of storage in the predator but at the same time, kayak fishing has taught me less is more, and I don't think one needs to bring the entire kitchen sink. And then loading/unloading the kayak. With my predator right now, it's pretty heavy. It would be very nice to have a lighter kayak for carting to beach launches and putting in and out of the truck. Also, Ive seen that all the Hawaiians rock the revos so that must mean something.

... i think the old town is like 115 pounds if i remember right. The outback should be like 105 pounds ...

Those both sound like beasts. I couldn't believe it, but I see a weight of 117 listed when I look up the old town predator pdl online. That seems insane--almost AI-level. The Revo 16 is only 92 pounds. What makes the old town kayak so frickin' heavy?

If you want speed, go for the Revo 16, nothing beats it in term of speed.  You will outrun all the pedal kayaks by a mile.  If you feel tippy, you can always add a dagger board.