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Topic: Sabiki rigs for shiner perch?  (Read 3697 times)

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BeerNfish

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I have only had success with catching shiners on a sabiki once. Is there a preferred color? Going to the store tomorrow to get some gear and wanted to pick up a few sabiki rigs.


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I have only had success with catching shiners on a sabiki once. Is there a preferred color? Going to the store tomorrow to get some gear and wanted to pick up a few sabiki rigs.
My preferred color is to tip them with shrimp pilecworm or tiny bit of squid, some put a scent on the hook and that works also
Mine are green with a white feather.  Hook size is most important.  Small hooks, size 10 I believe unless someone corrects me.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2019, 11:37:20 AM by Eddie »
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BeerNfish

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I have only had success with catching shiners on a sabiki once. Is there a preferred color? Going to the store tomorrow to get some gear and wanted to pick up a few sabiki rigs.
My preferred color is to tip them with shrimp pilecworm or tiny bit of squid, some put a scent on the hook and that works also
Mine are green with a white feather.  Hook size is most important.  Small hooks, size 10 I believe unless someone corrects me.

Thanks! I keep hearing about using shrimp. I'll have to get some. Has anyone tried  using tiny pieces of Berkeley gulp worms? Would be nice to save money since have a alot of them, probably will end up getting shrimp anyway.


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I have only had success with catching shiners on a sabiki once. Is there a preferred color? Going to the store tomorrow to get some gear and wanted to pick up a few sabiki rigs.
My preferred color is to tip them with shrimp pilecworm or tiny bit of squid, some put a scent on the hook and that works also
Mine are green with a white feather.  Hook size is most important.  Small hooks, size 10 I believe unless someone corrects me.
Actually you are reminding me of that excellent option but I’ve never done it...

Thanks! I keep hearing about using shrimp. I'll have to get some. Has anyone tried  using tiny pieces of Berkeley gulp worms? Would be nice to save money since have a alot of them, probably will end up getting shrimp anyway.
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I have only had success with catching shiners on a sabiki once. Is there a preferred color? Going to the store tomorrow to get some gear and wanted to pick up a few sabiki rigs.
My preferred color is to tip them with shrimp pilecworm or tiny bit of squid, some put a scent on the hook and that works also
Mine are green with a white feather.  Hook size is most important.  Small hooks, size 10 I believe unless someone corrects me.

 Has anyone tried  using tiny pieces of Berkeley gulp worms? Would be nice to save money since have a alot of them, probably will end up getting shrimp anyway.

Yep, scented stuff like gulp worm pieces works great.  The first time I was trying to sabiki shiner perch, I was not doing well.  The guy next to me took pity, and clued me into tipping the hooks with very small pieces of some gulps he had.  He also told me I was jigging way to slowly.  I started jigging crazy fast, and the shiners swarmed the hooks like piranha  :smt002


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I use size 14 (the smallest?). I just put some procure on them.
Been catching shiners, anchovies, smelt, sardine, mackerel, if I can find them... 


BeerNfish

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I figured if the surf perch love the gulp worms why not the shiners. Welp I'll try a sabiki topped with worm chunks this weekend in tomales and will be back with a report. Cheers!


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I use size 14 (the smallest?). I just put some procure on them.
Been catching shiners, anchovies, smelt, sardine, mackerel, if I can find them...

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Not much proof to report, was a struggle to find the shiners yesterday. Had a pink shrimp sabiki tipped with half of a pea sized chunks of Berkeley gulp camp worm,  I only caught one micro shiner. A late start kept me from looking for bait since I had frozen.


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We usually get them around the rocks. They aren't always there but when they are it's easy pickings. Does high tide make a difference? Do they swarm those rock piles at high tide? I'm not sure. That's why I always carry back up bait.
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fwiw ..last time at T-bay I got my shiners in the cove west of the yellow bouy 4-5 fow  what is that pelican point ?


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fwiw ..last time at T-bay I got my shiners in the cove west of the yellow bouy 4-5 fow  what is that pelican point ?
Yes, in that bay on the north side up against the beach... :smt006
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We usually get them around the rocks. They aren't always there but when they are it's easy pickings. Does high tide make a difference? Do they swarm those rock piles at high tide? I'm not sure. That's why I always carry back up bait.
Yeah I have hard time finding them on low tide some reason...


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Just a general heads up from regulations: You can only use 3 of the 6 hooks on your Sabiki rig


Uminchu Naoaki

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Just a general heads up from regulations: You can only use 3 of the 6 hooks on your Sabiki rig
Yes, but only in SF Bay I believe.

28.65. GENERAL. Except as provided in this article, fin fish may be taken only on hook-and-line or
by hand. Any number of hooks and lines may be used in all ocean waters and bays EXCEPT:
(a) San Francisco Bay, as described in Section 27.00, where only one line with not more than three
hooks may be used.

(b) On public piers, no person shall use more than two rods and lines, two hand lines, or two nets,
traps or other appliances used to take crabs.
(c) When rockfish (genus Sebastes), lingcod (Ophiodon elongatus), cabezon (Scorpaenichthys
marmoratus), or kelp or rock greenlings (Hexagrammos decagrammus and Hexagrammos lagocephalus)
are aboard or in possession, where only one line with not more than two hooks may be used pursuant
to Sections 28.55, 28.27, 28.28 or 28.29, respectively.

(d) No gaff hook shall be used to take or assist in landing any finfish shorter than the minimum size
limit. For the purpose of this section a gaff hook is any hook with or without a handle used to assist
in landing fish or to take fish in such a manner that the fish does not take the hook voluntarily in its
mouth. No person shall take finfish from any boat or other floating device in ocean waters without
having a landing net in possession or available for immediate use to assist in landing undersize fish
of species having minimum size limits; the opening of any such landing net shall be not less than
eighteen inches in diameter.
(e) North of Point Conception (34°27’00” N. lat.), where only one rod and line may be used by
each angler fishing for salmon, or fishing from any boat or floating device with salmon on board.

(f ) Mousetrap gear prohibited: It is unlawful to use, assist in using, or to possess aboard any
vessel, hook-and-line gear commonly termed “mouse traps” constructed of a hook(s) or lure(s),
attached to one end of a line that is attached to a float, or floats at the other end, and that when
fished, is not attached directly to a person or vessel. Possession of such gear aboard a vessel shall be
prima facie evidence that the gear is being used in violation of this regulation.
(g) North of Point Conception to Horse Mountain, Section 27.80(a)(3) applies to each angler fishing
for salmon or fishing from any boat or floating device with salmon on board.
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but if you fishing for Rockfish or have Rockfish, have to follow Rockfish Reg, and if you fishing for Salmon or have Salmon, have to follow Salmon Reg. 


 

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