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Looking at and doing a lot of research on different kayaks I will pull the trigger in February. I'll be stuck on my inflatable pontoon boat till then. Right now I think I'm torn between the big fish 120 and the Mako 12.

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I was interested in the mako 12' for a while.  When I bought my outback the dealer told me about his experience with them and how they are flimsy and the drive isn't great.  I haven't been in one, but I valued the retailer's experience with just moving them around

I think there are a couplr of people who has Mako 12 here. Hope they'll chime in.

Thanks it seems kind of hard to find anything negative about them or reviews for that matter. I've been really thinking about the big fish 120 and putting a trolling motor in the sonar pod

I was interested in the mako 12' for a while.  When I bought my outback the dealer told me about his experience with them and how they are flimsy and the drive isn't great.  I haven't been in one, but I valued the retailer's experience with just moving them around

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Thanks it seems kind of hard to find anything negative about them or reviews for that matter. I've been really thinking about the big fish 120 and putting a trolling motor in the sonar pod

I was interested in the mako 12' for a while.  When I bought my outback the dealer told me about his experience with them and how they are flimsy and the drive isn't great.  I haven't been in one, but I valued the retailer's experience with just moving them around

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You're right, there aren't many negatives besides shipping.  I know first hand finding a dealer and getting through to the company is a bit hard, hit or miss scenario.  MakoNick here new to the forums told me he loves his and is happy with it when I was interested in one and asking his opinion.  I probably would have been fine with it not knowing what else was out there, as it would be my first pedal kayak and I had never even been in one before. I just got a 2019 hobie outback and had no idea what I was missing, I think it's great - was a little sick to my stomach paying for it but after taking it out once I was so happy I dropped the money on it and didn't go cheap.  But, just like other reviews, it's my first pedal so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I think the biggest thing for you is to ask Mako owners to compare the Mako boat and drive system to other kayaks and drive systems, and then you can decide from there...don't just ask straight opinion on it.  Also shipping for the Mako was going to be $300, so that $1300-$1400 price tag which seems awesome really becomes like $1700, which puts you in the price range with solid well-known kayaks backed by decent companies.  There is a dealer in Oceanside, CA that was not very professional or communicative and ended up just not responding to my last two emails - mind you I was actually trying to buy the kayak at that point and he lost the sale.  I'm actually very fortunate that guy didn't care about a sale and turned me off from his business and now I have a 2019 outback which is badass and beautiful.

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