Bye Bye, Net Neutrality...

We had a good run...


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I guess I just don't understand what this is all about? Info please!?!?!?

I guess I just don't understand what this is all about? Info please!?!?!?

A Christmas gift from Trump’s FCC to Comcast: Your internet service provider can now control what you have access to online.

Don't they now? Can they stop internet traffic to pakistan? What exactly do we stand to lose? Foreign porn? Will businesses have to pay to spam us on the net? Are they going to block the .com/uk spam crowd. I don't use much of the internet. Probably 20 dif pages.

Don't they now? Can they stop internet traffic to pakistan? What exactly do we stand to lose? Foreign porn? Will businesses have to pay to spam us on the net? Are they going to block the .com/uk spam crowd. I don't use much of the internet. Probably 20 dif pages.

They are going to block 19 of them 

Don't they now? Can they stop internet traffic to pakistan? What exactly do we stand to lose? Foreign porn? Will businesses have to pay to spam us on the net? Are they going to block the .com/uk spam crowd. I don't use much of the internet. Probably 20 dif pages.

In short, no, your ISP was not allowed to control what you access (thanks Obama). You now stand to lose money, anonymity, privacy, and uninhibited access to small-guy websites that you enjoy (such as NCKA). (Thanks Trump)

The neutrality is actually good for consumer.  Revoking this actually enables certain special interests to gain priorities on internet access (and enabling the internet service providers the ability to gain more revenue).  I understand the arguments on both sides, but I personally think this is not in the best interest of general consumers, but certainly good for businesses.  The effect could be many things, but here is some example.   

They can make Hulu faster than Netflix if Hulu pays your internet service provider.

They can re-direct your search to a shopping site without your consent.

They can pop up an ad to a competitor (who pay them) if you go to a vendor of your choice.

They can slow down a site until that website pay them.

They can actually allow certain business to spam you more than others (if those certain businesses pay them).

This isn't over. This will go to court and to date, net neutrality is undefeated there. The FCC will have to justify their decision.

It can take months in court.

It can take months in court.

Hurray for a glacial bureaucracy.

There was no net "neutrality" until 2015. How is going back to pre 2015 regulations going to destroy the internet?

There was no net "neutrality" until 2015. How is going back to pre 2015 regulations going to destroy the internet?

There was net neutrality before 2015. Net neutrality was codified in 2015 under title II, but the FCC has been enforcing net neutrality principles since as early as 2004.

A few Republicans have been trying to end/stop net neutrality since pre-2015. Remember when Ted Stevens described the internet as “a series of tubes”? Well, that was back in 2006.

Obama's net neutrality is 2 years old.  How has YOUR internet usage changed over those two years?  Oh, didn't notice a damn thing I bet.  So when this regulation goes away, internet will go back to how it was just 2 years ago.  I bet you don't notice a damn thing again. 
Regulating an industry that was doing a fine job all along of regulating itself was about as stupid as forcing every American to purchase a product from a private company or pay a fine.  (Obamacare for those who didn't realize THIS inconvenient truth)

You wanna know why the internet and it's technology has taken off the way it has?  Because government has kept it's nose out of it for the most part.  Most likely because the technology is light years above the average politcian's mental capacity.  But sooner or later the government just couldn't pass up fucking up another capitalistic enterprise that created more jobs in the past couple decades than every government regulation combined.  After all, control is what these swamp dwellers are all about.  Water, energy, air and now the ether.  All they do is try and scare the masses with draconian fears that didn't exist and try to convince them that they alone will make their lives more equal.  Not better, but bring it all down to the lowest common denominator. 
Now, where did I put my old 56K modem I used to hook up with the internet via my phone line? 

Can anyone list the horrible inequities that stopped in 2015? Discriminatory, unfair, non neutral things that were actually happening that stopped in 2015?

Can anyone list the horrible inequities that stopped in 2015? Discriminatory, unfair, non neutral things that were actually happening that stopped in 2015?

I found this:

https://www.freepress.net/blog/2017/04/25/net-neutrality-violations-brief-history

They are all seemingly minor, but I understand that the fear is ISPs will act with impunity to create tiered services, throttle traffic to unpreferred sites, favor traffic to partner sites/pay for play on the server end, hijack searches, censor any websites that are critical of it or its partners, and other types of non-neutral things.

The new rules require transparency, so lying about doing one of those things could subject the ISP to a fine.  Tiered service is standard in the rest of the world and it seems to work for them.  There is nothing preventing an ISP from advertising a free, open, neutral internet access and offering it for sale to the public or otherwise using it as marketing. 

I don't see how the sky is falling here, but a lot of people are afraid and see it as just that.