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Topic: nobody wants to touch it  (Read 26811 times)

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Archie Marx

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I think Bushy wants to turn this back to his "fishing safe space" (to quote an anonymous friend).  :smt002 :smt003
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Weimarian

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I think Bushy wants to turn this back to his "fishing safe space" (to quote an anonymous friend).  :smt002 :smt003
Nothing wrong with that..... I'll help! fish and Mandarins!!!
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 09:07:21 AM by Weimarian »
my new name should be Ostridge. Got my head in the sand. Going fishing and letting go of the other stuff I can't control anyway!


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E Kayaker

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Ok no trump was not my first second or third choice but Hillery come on man her legacy of hate  corruption and maybe murder god back all the way to white white water though the years so much to list including putting her office for sale pay to play
And you would have her as president ?
She's so bad I have a dictionary if you look up corruption it has her picture

I don't vote demarcate or republican I vote for freedoms and rights
I have a kid and I want a free society for her somthing once lost would be extremely difficult if at all possible to regain
Obama is a socialist I think Hillery is to and this. Oh th is so far go that a very large portion of the country was rallying behind sanders whom admitted his a socialist by the way  calling your self a democratic socialist only means your a socialist
So my joking co workers tell me trumps evil but have no prof put the same question up for Hillery is Hillery evil do search see how many things her and her husband have done to  anyone that got in there way ya there evil
When I work outside of. A we're folks talk freely you lean real fast how much Hillary and for that after obama are dispised all the coal miners that lost there jobs even though coal is cleaner than ever all the money dumped into solar oops that was failed experiment I could go on
I love your passion but most of the country is not liberal it's moderate to rigth get over it

I don't know where to start. I think I understood most of what you wrote, but the grammar, punctuation, and spelling make it difficult to know exactly what you're trying to convey.

First, if you want freedom for your kids, get ready to fight tooth and nail for it, because we have a president-elect who is appointing white supremacists to his staff, who wants to kick out Latinos, register Muslims, and repeal marriage equality and Roe v Wade. And he's not even in office yet.

And what's so awful about socialism? And don't just rant about freedom. Be specific. Socialism covers a broad spectrum. We have many social programs in place already: libraries, public schools, public transportation, public utilities, subsidies for food, water, oil, etc. What would Sanders have done that would cross the line for you? Make health care more affordable? Raise taxes for millionaires and billionaires? I have no problem with either of those.

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First, if you want freedom for your kids, get ready to fight tooth and nail for it, because we have a president-elect who is appointing white supremacists to his staff, who wants to kick out Latinos, register Muslims, and repeal marriage equality and Roe v Wade. And he's not even in office yet.

And what's so awful about socialism? And don't just rant about freedom. Be specific. Socialism covers a broad spectrum. We have many social programs in place already: libraries, public schools, public transportation, public utilities, subsidies for food, water, oil, etc. What would Sanders have done that would cross the line for you? Make health care more affordable? Raise taxes for millionaires and billionaires? I have no problem with either of those.

Do you have the exact quotes and policies to back these statements up?

Pretty much everything is wrong with Socialism. It rewards those not willing to do the work themselves. If you took 100% of the income from the top 25% it still would not pay for the free college program he wants. I find it a tad hypocritical that Bernie aspusas these things and gives so little to charity. From 1991 to 2014 Bernie took a Salary of $3,627,800 paid $1,015,784 (28% tax is estimated for his tax bracket and deductions) yet only gave $181,390 in charitable donations (Public records). Bernie like most of those that try to usher in socialism think its for the other guy to pay for.


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In Europe, especially in Germany, hoisting a swastika-emblazoned Nazi flag is a crime. For decades after World War II, people have hunted down and sought punishment for Nazi murderers, who were responsible for the deaths of more than 20 million people.

Here’s my question: Why are the horrors of Nazism so well-known and widely condemned but not those of socialism and communism? What goes untaught – and possibly is covered up – is that socialist and communist ideas have produced the greatest evil in mankind’s history. You say, “Williams, what in the world are you talking about? Socialists, communists and their fellow travelers, such as the Wall Street occupiers supported by our president, care about the little guy in his struggle for a fair shake! They’re trying to promote social justice.” Let’s look at some of the history of socialism and communism
glade you made it
now let's get our fish on

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E Kayaker

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In Europe, especially in Germany, hoisting a swastika-emblazoned Nazi flag is a crime. For decades after World War II, people have hunted down and sought punishment for Nazi murderers, who were responsible for the deaths of more than 20 million people.

Here’s my question: Why are the horrors of Nazism so well-known and widely condemned but not those of socialism and communism? What goes untaught – and possibly is covered up – is that socialist and communist ideas have produced the greatest evil in mankind’s history. You say, “Williams, what in the world are you talking about? Socialists, communists and their fellow travelers, such as the Wall Street occupiers supported by our president, care about the little guy in his struggle for a fair shake! They’re trying to promote social justice.” Let’s look at some of the history of socialism and communism

You can start with the recent history of the effects of socialism on Venezuela's economy.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-14/venezuelas-death-spiral-dozen-eggs-cost-150-hyperinflation-horrors-hit-socialist-uto

Verify facts before bashing the source.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 11:09:32 AM by traildad »
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=42846.msg470404#msg470404

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Weimarian

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Facts? FACTS!!!! We don't need no stinking facts! I saw It on the internet!!! Let's go riot!!!! F!%^$G Liberal, student sheep, asshats!!! Or should i say GO TEAM!?!?! More fish and my pretty daughter to distract ya!
 Don't look to hard  :smt002 ONLY 16 :smt061
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 11:47:19 AM by Weimarian »
my new name should be Ostridge. Got my head in the sand. Going fishing and letting go of the other stuff I can't control anyway!


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In Europe, especially in Germany, hoisting a swastika-emblazoned Nazi flag is a crime. For decades after World War II, people have hunted down and sought punishment for Nazi murderers, who were responsible for the deaths of more than 20 million people.

Here’s my question: Why are the horrors of Nazism so well-known and widely condemned but not those of socialism and communism? What goes untaught – and possibly is covered up – is that socialist and communist ideas have produced the greatest evil in mankind’s history. You say, “Williams, what in the world are you talking about? Socialists, communists and their fellow travelers, such as the Wall Street occupiers supported by our president, care about the little guy in his struggle for a fair shake! They’re trying to promote social justice.” Let’s look at some of the history of socialism and communism

You can start with the recent history of the effects of socialism on Venezuela's economy.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-14/venezuelas-death-spiral-dozen-eggs-cost-150-hyperinflation-horrors-hit-socialist-uto

Verify facts before bashing the source.

I think that both the left and right muddy the term Socialism. Often what I view as welfare state policies are often called "socialism" even though they are not. Ken, when you talk about socialism are you including welfare state non-socialist policies such as the ACA?
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Wildrooster

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Now that I have your attention I just really
Don't like socialism 
glade you made it
now let's get our fish on

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I nominate this fish for "Smoker of the Year" award 2016.

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Archie Marx

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I nominate this fish for "Smoker of the Year" award 2016.

Bouché

+1  :smt044
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E Kayaker

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In Europe, especially in Germany, hoisting a swastika-emblazoned Nazi flag is a crime. For decades after World War II, people have hunted down and sought punishment for Nazi murderers, who were responsible for the deaths of more than 20 million people.

Here’s my question: Why are the horrors of Nazism so well-known and widely condemned but not those of socialism and communism? What goes untaught – and possibly is covered up – is that socialist and communist ideas have produced the greatest evil in mankind’s history. You say, “Williams, what in the world are you talking about? Socialists, communists and their fellow travelers, such as the Wall Street occupiers supported by our president, care about the little guy in his struggle for a fair shake! They’re trying to promote social justice.” Let’s look at some of the history of socialism and communism

You can start with the recent history of the effects of socialism on Venezuela's economy.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-14/venezuelas-death-spiral-dozen-eggs-cost-150-hyperinflation-horrors-hit-socialist-uto

Verify facts before bashing the source.

I think that both the left and right muddy the term Socialism. Often what I view as welfare state policies are often called "socialism" even though they are not. Ken, when you talk about socialism are you including welfare state non-socialist policies such as the ACA?
If I say socialism I'd usually be referring to a socialist government system. The ACA may be similar to what a socialist government might implement, but in and of itself is not socialism. I'd imagine the ACA doesn't go far enough for a true socialist. Socialism can't work in the world as it is today. I am against socialism. I would be for "free" education though for one example. But it wouldn't be where schools charge huge tuition and the taxpayers foot the bill. My free education would be a system that allows people to earn a free education by first and foremost doing well in school. Follow that up with everyone contributing to what needs to be done to keep the school functioning. The school teaches building maintenance and the students perform maintenance on school buildings. You get a free education in culinary school while you work in the cafeteria. You get the idea. The school is mostly self supporting and you don't owe thousands of dollars when you graduate.
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I nominate this for smoker of the century LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
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