yakattack might bolt problem

I've set up a downrigger on my kayak.  I want it on my left, with the rod on a ram mount on a gear track on my right.  THe problem is when the downrigger pulls on the rod, it torques the ram ball and unscrews the ball, moving the rod.

Can anybody think of a quick fix?

The thing I'd like is a bolt with a left hand thread, but I haven't found such an animal.  WIth a left hand thread the torque would simply tighten down, so it would not move so long as I had it already sufficiently torqued down.

This problem also happens when I run a rod without the downrigger.  If I run it off the left side across the yak, it's fine.  Again, it just torques the bolt tighter and isn't an issue.  I don't want to set up my rod on that way though, I want to run it the other way.



DO you guys have any ideas?

Scotty mounts. Can't slip. Just add an extension if need be. You can use the rod holders like behind the seat too. Just move them up front.

Ram balls won't slip if set up as they are in your picture with the rod on the right side on a mount on the right side.  I got a scotty mount for the downrigger and it wasn't cheap once you factor in the mounting hardware.  It also takes up a lot more room than a ram ball.  I'd like to figure out a way to make that work before giving up and buying the scotty mount.

Thanks.

Ram balls won't slip if set up as they are in your picture with the rod on the right side on a mount on the right side.  I got a scotty mount for the downrigger and it wasn't cheap once you factor in the mounting hardware.  It also takes up a lot more room than a ram ball.  I'd like to figure out a way to make that work before giving up and buying the scotty mount.

Thanks.

you could fab a set screw of some kind. But I use the mighty mounts with a Scotty mount to Scotty rid holder to avoid the problem. 

Ram balls won't slip if set up as they are in your picture with the rod on the right side on a mount on the right side.  I got a scotty mount for the downrigger and it wasn't cheap once you factor in the mounting hardware.  It also takes up a lot more room than a ram ball.  I'd like to figure out a way to make that work before giving up and buying the scotty mount.

Thanks.

I know. that is why I don't use the Scotty gear head mounts either. It unscrews also when you get a fish of any size on the left side of the boat. I mounted that square base to a piece of cutting board, counter sunk the mount screws, and used the mighty bolts to hold the cutting board on the track. When I use the down rigger I use it on the right side anyway, and my rod on an extension to get it up higher so I can load it up. I don't troll for Salmon with the rod in a rod holder. As you see it in the picture I used it as a support for the rod and the rod butt under my leg. I salmon troll with a deep six. May try the DR next week depending on how deep the fish are.

If you tighten the Ram ball down too hard it can break the stud from the ball too from a post I saw somewhere.

As you see it in the picture I used it as a support for the rod and the rod butt under my leg.

That's why I'm having the problem.  I went to the dark side. 

If you tighten the Ram ball down too hard it can break the stud from the ball too from a post I saw somewhere.

I wonder how big of a concern this really is.  Hadn't thought of that.

Hobie will pose a problem for the under butt issue for sure. Are you posed to the DR on the right side?

Hobie will pose a problem for the under butt issue for sure. Are you posed to the DR on the right side?

Yeah, I'd rather have it on the left and spring for the scotty mount for the rod if it came to that.  I don't want it on the right. 

One of the main issues with the DR on the right is the paddle is on the right. There is no option to put the paddle on the left in the 2015 revo because the rudder handle position was improved at the cost of not being able to store the paddle on the left. I don't want to obstruct access to the paddle at all, seems like a really bad idea.

Not being a Hobie guy I did not know that, but it makes sense.

Loctite threadlocker ?

Loctite threadlocker ?

I don't want it permenantly mounted.

How hard would it be to machine a left hand mighty bolt?  Doesn't someone around NCKA have a machine shop?

Loctite threadlocker ?

I don't want it permenantly mounted.

How hard would it be to machine a left hand mighty bolt?  Doesn't someone around NCKA have a machine shop?

The ball needs to be left threaded too.

I've set up a downrigger on my kayak.  I want it on my left, with the rod on a ram mount on a gear track on my right.  THe problem is when the downrigger pulls on the rod, it torques the ram ball and unscrews the ball, moving the rod.

Can anybody think of a quick fix?

The thing I'd like is a bolt with a left hand thread, but I haven't found such an animal.  WIth a left hand thread the torque would simply tighten down, so it would not move so long as I had it already sufficiently torqued down.

This problem also happens when I run a rod without the downrigger.  If I run it off the left side across the yak, it's fine.  Again, it just torques the bolt tighter and isn't an issue.  I don't want to set up my rod on that way though, I want to run it the other way.



DO you guys have any ideas?

both of these would work.  the second link is how i do my left hand side rod holders on track, which would be transitive to your issue.

http://www.yakattack.us/TBK_1005_p/tbk-1005.htm


http://www.yakattack.us/MMS_12_p/mms-12.htm


honestly though, i didn't like the first option much. I have one that i haven't used in a while.  I just find the ram mounts aren't working as well as I would like them to.

I've set up a downrigger on my kayak.  I want it on my left, with the rod on a ram mount on a gear track on my right.  THe problem is when the downrigger pulls on the rod, it torques the ram ball and unscrews the ball, moving the rod.

Can anybody think of a quick fix?

The thing I'd like is a bolt with a left hand thread, but I haven't found such an animal.  WIth a left hand thread the torque would simply tighten down, so it would not move so long as I had it already sufficiently torqued down.

This problem also happens when I run a rod without the downrigger.  If I run it off the left side across the yak, it's fine.  Again, it just torques the bolt tighter and isn't an issue.  I don't want to set up my rod on that way though, I want to run it the other way.



DO you guys have any ideas?

both of these would work.  the second link is how i do my left hand side rod holders on track, which would be transitive to your issue.

http://www.yakattack.us/TBK_1005_p/tbk-1005.htm


http://www.yakattack.us/MMS_12_p/mms-12.htm


honestly though, i didn't like the first option much. I have one that i haven't used in a while.  I just find the ram mounts aren't working as well as I would like them to.

That first one seems like it solves the problem.  What didn't you like about it?  Or what is the function problem with ram mounts that you are running in to?

The second is how I attach my scotty DR.