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Topic: Advice on eating fish for pregnant women  (Read 3517 times)

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I think that eating fish with higher levels of mercury is still healthier than hormone enhanced meat.  But at least, eating of low mercury meat is recommended. All the reason to eat your catch, pregnant or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/10/pregnant-women-fish-advice/10278885/


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right on bro but wasn't this common knowledge?
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I think that eating fish with higher levels of mercury is still healthier than hormone enhanced meat.  But at least, eating of low mercury meat is recommended. All the reason to eat your catch, pregnant or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/10/pregnant-women-fish-advice/10278885/

When you eat hormone enhanced beef, the cow proteins are not used directly by your body. The proteins in the meat are broken down into amino acids to be used to build proteins your body needs.

Not so with mercury, which does not break down and can be passed to the fetus resulting in impaired neurological development. Mercury can also damage adult nervous system, so it is best to shy away from fish with high levels of mercury. Here is a thread about mercury poisoning from last year:

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=49721.0


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I think that eating fish with higher levels of mercury is still healthier than hormone enhanced meat.  But at least, eating of low mercury meat is recommended. All the reason to eat your catch, pregnant or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/10/pregnant-women-fish-advice/10278885/

When you eat hormone enhanced beef, the cow proteins are not used directly by your body. The proteins in the meat are broken down into amino acids to be used to build proteins your body needs.

Not so with mercury, which does not break down and can be passed to the fetus resulting in impaired neurological development. Mercury can also damage adult nervous system, so it is best to shy away from fish with high levels of mercury. Here is a thread about mercury poisoning from last year:

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=49721.0

Cholesterol and fats from livestock can shorten your life much quicker than mercury in fish. The fact is, several orders of magnitude of people die of heart attacks, diabetes complications and other cardiovascular diseases than from mercury related illnesses by eating mercury contaminated fish.

There have been many studies linking hormones from livestock to early onset of puberty and unusual growth spurts of youth.  Some athletes were blaming their steroids as coming from beef.  In the 1990s Theo Colborn has refocused attention on hormones in livestock that mimic, suppress, or amplify the action of animal hormones, so-called endocrine disrupters. When an organism is exposed to these endocrine signal scramblers in the egg or uterus, normal sexual development can be disrupted, resulting in increased incidences of infertility, underdeveloped sex organs, possession of both sets of sex organs (hermaphrodism), masculinization of females, and feminization of males.


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There are also ways to mitigate the ill effects of eating mercury contaminated fish. One of them has been practiced by the Japanese for ages, giving them longer life, by consuming products rich in Lactobacillus.  Pickled or fermented vegetables for example are rich in lactobacillus. It is not a coincidence why they are eaten together with fish. The lactobacillus along with other bacteria live in the guts and they convert mercury into harmless forms in a very intricate fashion. Yogurt, some milk such as yakult have special strains of lactobacillus and they too can help build your gut microbiota that can help bioremediate heavy metals within your body.

Some plants like the Ashitaba, when taken together with polluted fish can help prevent development of cancers from heavy metals and it helps detoxify your bodies from such contaminants.

Here's some interesting paper that discusses indirectly the role of gut bacteria in attenuating the effects of heavy metals that we consume with our food.

http://aem.asm.org/content/78/18/6397.full
 


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I think that eating fish with higher levels of mercury is still healthier than hormone enhanced meat.  But at least, eating of low mercury meat is recommended. All the reason to eat your catch, pregnant or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/10/pregnant-women-fish-advice/10278885/

When you eat hormone enhanced beef, the cow proteins are not used directly by your body. The proteins in the meat are broken down into amino acids to be used to build proteins your body needs.

Not so with mercury, which does not break down and can be passed to the fetus resulting in impaired neurological development. Mercury can also damage adult nervous system, so it is best to shy away from fish with high levels of mercury. Here is a thread about mercury poisoning from last year:

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=49721.0

Cholesterol and fats from livestock can shorten your life much quicker than mercury in fish. The fact is, several orders of magnitude of people die of heart attacks, diabetes complications and other cardiovascular diseases than from mercury related illnesses by eating mercury contaminated fish.

So are we now talking about just hormone enhanced meats or all meats in general?

There have been many studies linking hormones from livestock to early onset of puberty and unusual growth spurts of youth.  Some athletes were blaming their steroids as coming from beef.  In the 1990s Theo Colborn has refocused attention on hormones in livestock that mimic, suppress, or amplify the action of animal hormones, so-called endocrine disrupters. When an organism is exposed to these endocrine signal scramblers in the egg or uterus, normal sexual development can be disrupted, resulting in increased incidences of infertility, underdeveloped sex organs, possession of both sets of sex organs (hermaphrodism), masculinization of females, and feminization of males.

Can you site the epidemiological study that conclusively links the ingestion of hormone enhanced meat to the early onset of puberty?


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You can use google scholar or search the biomedical archives

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/


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I think that eating fish with higher levels of mercury is still healthier than hormone enhanced meat.  But at least, eating of low mercury meat is recommended. All the reason to eat your catch, pregnant or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/10/pregnant-women-fish-advice/10278885/



Not so with mercury, which does not break down and can be passed to the fetus resulting in impaired neurological development. Mercury can also damage adult nervous system, so it is best to shy away from fish with high levels of mercury. Here is a thread about mercury poisoning from last year:

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=49721.0

Cholesterol and fats from livestock can shorten your life much quicker than mercury in fish. The fact is, several orders of magnitude of people die of heart attacks, diabetes complications and other cardiovascular diseases than from mercury related illnesses by eating mercury contaminated fish.

There have been many studies linking hormones from livestock to early onset of puberty and unusual growth spurts of youth.  Some athletes were blaming their steroids as coming from beef.  In the 1990s Theo Colborn has refocused attention on hormones in livestock that mimic, suppress, or amplify the action of animal hormones, so-called endocrine disrupters. When an organism is exposed to these endocrine signal scramblers in the egg or uterus, normal sexual development can be disrupted, resulting in increased incidences of infertility, underdeveloped sex organs, possession of both sets of sex organs (hermaphrodism), masculinization of females, and feminization of males.

I was looking for the article new just out. And genetics have more to do with the cholesterol heart problems and strokes than eating fat. I'm still looking for where I read about this and looking. 
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You can use google scholar or search the biomedical archives

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/

I was not able to find an epidemiological study that conclusively links the ingestion of hormone enhanced meat to the early onset of puberty. What was your source?


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Well, I'm not a pregnant woman. However I am a single dad, and my daughter and I really enjoy eating our catch.. We mostly eat rockfish and ling. I just can't seem to find any reading on the mercury levels on these fish. I wasn't sure where to post this, any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Well, I'm not a pregnant woman. However I am a single dad, and my daughter and I really enjoy eating our catch.. We mostly eat rockfish and ling. I just can't seem to find any reading on the mercury levels on these fish. I wasn't sure where to post this, any input would be greatly appreciated.

  Nick.

http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_issues/programs/swamp/docs/coast_study/bog2012may/coast2012factsheet.pdf

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Hey Crash,,
 I couldn't log onto that link.. Any summary?


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Hey Crash,,
 I couldn't log onto that link.. Any summary?

It's a comprehensive list of mercury concern from fish tested in about 70 spots along California coast. From 2009-10. I don't know if there is a more recent survey.
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Hey Crash,,
 I couldn't log onto that link.. Any summary?

The link works fine for me.


 

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