Gimme Shelter Growing Pains

I agree that it is the responsibility of NCKA to provide additional facilities for the event if they are need. I am part of a motorcycle club and we put on an event each year that generally has between 2000-5000 attendees. For these events it is our responsibility to provide the bathroom facilities and other infrastructure needed for the event.

That being said we do bring in a ton of money and Jack should continue to use some of the profits to upgrade the location. It will make his location better for GS and better for the rest of his guest throughout the year.

I also feel that as the load grows to create the event we as members of NCKA should step up and take some of the load off Eric so he isn't overwhelmed. If additional bathrooms are needed than someone should be given the duty to make the arrangements for them. Same goes for any other additional things that may need to be added to continue to make GS the awesome event it is.

Does anyone know if Sledge has made it out of the hot tub yet? 

 

Does anyone know if Sledge has made it out of the hot tub yet? 

For a while there, I couldn't figure out the story behind the raffle tickets Sledge was selling: were they to win the hot tub, or to win a hot tub soak with the Sledgend?

I figured it was a win-win either way so I bought one  .

Why don't folks just shit in the ocean? You guys all pee in your wetsuits!

Rider that was an excellent point you made about the sport.

707 am I right in hearing that you think that ncka is somehow responsible? Ncka doesn't own this event. As ncka can't be held liable for anything having to go with this event. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here.

Jack should not have to add more Porta Potties just to accommodate us for a single weekend. I doubt the campground is that full the other weekends of the year. GS has grown quite a bit over the years. While the campground facilities were sufficient for our group a few years ago, it is struggling with our current number. We chose his campground as our venue, so we should plan GS accordingly. Even if that means lowering the overall number of participants.

Not this.  If Jack can't handle the traffic, he should limit it.  It isn't on us.  Its on him.  This is a huge revenue generator for him.  Providing basic services is part of the responsibility that goes with taking our money and operating a campground.  We shouldn't even be entertaining the thought.  If he needs to call B&B and get a couple more cans, he can do that.  If he needs to charge us a couple bucks more to pay for it, he can do that.  If he needs to limit the number of people camping on his property and forgo the extra income, he can do that.

It isn't on us.

+1000

Damn, Crash. You sound just like a lawyer. 

The promoter of the event is responsible. Technically that isn't NCKA since NCKA is not the actual promoter. NCKA is the only attendees which makes me feel we/NCKA should take part in resolving some of the facilities issues.

Simply because the event is at Jack's campground does not lay the sole responsibilities of providing facilities for the masses on his shoulder. If you go to a bike rally the people hosting the event provided the security, fencing, bathrooms, etc. The same goes for an art and wine show, a parade, a concert, and the list goes on an on. This is not to say Jack should do his part also. He should have his maintenance crew clean the bathrooms more often during the event. The septic truck should come more often to clean the honey buckets.

 I think we all need to do our part to resolve the issues to make the event that hundreds of us look forward to each year continue to be what it is.

When you have a for profit event such as you are using as an example, then yes it would be the responsibility for the event to provide certain basic needs. The campground has a maximum occupancy I would  assume. Hence the need for the owner to be notified by the event manager or reservations being made so a total number of people using the facilities can be determined. At that point it's the campground working in conjunction with the event manager to provide what is needed.

you guys seem to like making a headache for Eric and this facility thing, the fact of the matter is if you have it at a campground the campground guy has a responsibility and the event host has responsibility. but Eric already has enough s*** going on he doesn't need everybody else to weigh in on who should and should not provide mobile shiters.

its exactly this kind of "everybody else knows best from their arm chair position" that makes people stop hosting events like this. Why don't you let eric take care of his part of the deal which he does with 1000 percent awesomeness and you just come to the event enjoy it or not.

you guys seem to like making a headache for Eric and this facility thing, the fact of the matter is if you have it at a campground the campground guy has a responsibility and the event host has responsibility. but Eric already has enough s*** going on he doesn't need everybody else to weigh in on who should and should not provide mobile shiters.

its exactly this kind of "everybody else knows best from their arm chair position" that makes people stop hosting events like this. Why don't you let eric take care of his part of the deal which he does with 1000 percent awesomeness and you just come to the event enjoy it or not.

+10,000


P.S. Looks like the drugs are kickin in!  How are you typing?

you guys seem to like making a headache for Eric and this facility thing, the fact of the matter is if you have it at a campground the campground guy has a responsibility and the event host has responsibility. but Eric already has enough s*** going on he doesn't need everybody else to weigh in on who should and should not provide mobile shiters.

its exactly this kind of "everybody else knows best from their arm chair position" that makes people stop hosting events like this. Why don't you let eric take care of his part of the deal which he does with 1000 percent awesomeness and you just come to the event enjoy it or not.

+10,000


P.S. Looks like the drugs are kickin in!  How are you typing?

He's D***tating! 

MY point was is we as a whole should help to resolve the issues that arose instead of expecting Jack or Eric to handle. Either way I am done discussing it.

Eric is you need help with GS9 shoot me a PM and let me know what you need.

you guys seem to like making a headache for Eric and this facility thing, the fact of the matter is if you have it at a campground the campground guy has a responsibility and the event host has responsibility. but Eric already has enough s*** going on he doesn't need everybody else to weigh in on who should and should not provide mobile shiters.

its exactly this kind of "everybody else knows best from their arm chair position" that makes people stop hosting events like this. Why don't you let eric take care of his part of the deal which he does with 1000 percent awesomeness and you just come to the event enjoy it or not.

+10,000


P.S. Looks like the drugs are kickin in!  How are you typing?

He's D***tating! 

Yep

But really, I was there from Thursday afternoon till Sunday morning when we had full camp capacity and didn't see any bathroom problem.  The only delay was when the young lady came for the scheduled cleaning of the bathroom.  Other than that it was smooth trip to the CR.

as far as I know the camping ground was not exclusive for NCKA, so it should be the responsibility of the park to provide clean bathrooms for their costumers, but what about all the people that did not paid to the park by staying in a private house or camping by the lighthouse. should there be a fee for us ?  I did not use the bathrooms at the park but did go to the potluck and hangout there too.
 
There was a lot more people than previous years and people ate a lot in the potluck, that food was going to end in a toilet sooner or later.

Maybe they were not expecting as many of us and they may be better prepared for next year.
or maybe increase the fee a couple of bucks to help out.

Eric, I had a great time in Shelter Cove and I don't mind if you increase the fee for participating.