What constitutes as a barbless hook?

I think it was Mooch that got a $500 fine because the DFG used the cotton swab test on his pinched Barb Hook. I grind all of mine.

If you have salmon on board then you better get it off of the kayak before fishing for Rockfish. Unless you fish for Rockfish with a barbless circle hook.

So once a salmon is on board you have to go to barbless circle hooks?
You just can't fish with barbless salmon hooks?

I believe jigging for rock cod is like mooching for salmon.So a circle hook would be the regulation.I think.Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Its my understanding that as long as bait isn't used, a barbless circle hook is not required.  I believe you have to be using bait AND not trolling in order to be required to used barbless circle hooks.  For example, using a barbless jighead with swimbait would be ok.  There is that gray area about scents being considered bait so as long as its not scented swimbaits, you're good to go. 

I could be wrong so don't bash me.   

(3) Other Hook Restrictions. When fishing with bait in the ocean between Horse Mountain
(40°05’00” N. lat.) and Point Conception, if angling by any means other than trolling, then no more
than two (2) single point, single shank, barbless circle hooks shall be used.
The distance between the two hooks must not exceed five inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook, and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied).

I think it was Mooch that got a $500 fine because the DFG used the cotton swab test on his pinched Barb Hook. I grind all of mine.

If you have salmon on board then you better get it off of the kayak before fishing for Rockfish. Unless you fish for Rockfish with a barbless circle hook.

So once a salmon is on board you have to go to barbless circle hooks?
You just can't fish with barbless salmon hooks?

No....you would have already been using circle hooks (with bait) or a barbless J hook (trolling or artificial w/o bait or scent) when you caught and kept the salmon.  I believe Bill is saying that if you are actively salmon fishing you'd be best off having any spare rods rigged with salmon compliant gear, so there's no splainin to do if dfg wants to see them. 

The cotton swab is much talked about but I've never seen nor heard any first hand accounts of it happening, that I believe anyway.   

I believe jigging for rock cod is like mooching for salmon.So a circle hook would be the regulation.I think.Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I really hope not, otherwise we'd be restricted to mooching. I'm just as confused as most people here. There is this gray area like what Won said that needs to be addressed so we can all be on the same page.

.....and legend has it the a hull scrotum rub was the result of a ritualistic piercing initiation or a drunken reach around gone horribly wrong....or right depending on which hull you talk to

I believe jigging for rock cod is like mooching for salmon.So a circle hook would be the regulation.I think.Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I really hope not, otherwise we'd be restricted to mooching. I'm just as confused as most people here. There is this gray area like what Won said that needs to be addressed so we can all be on the same page.

The gray area I mentioned was about using scents.  I'm pretty sure you can use barbless jighead with big hammer or barbless anything as long as no bait is used.

Its my understanding that as long as bait isn't used, a barbless circle hook is not required.  I believe you have to be using bait AND not trolling in order to be required to used barbless circle hooks.  For example, using a barbless jighead with swimbait would be ok.  There is that gray area about scents being considered bait so as long as its not scented swimbaits, you're good to go. 

I could be wrong so don't bash me.   

(3) Other Hook Restrictions. When fishing with bait in the ocean between Horse Mountain
(40°05’00” N. lat.) and Point Conception, if angling by any means other than trolling, then no more
than two (2) single point, single shank, barbless circle hooks shall be used.
The distance between the two hooks must not exceed five inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook, and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied).

Correct. If you are mooching bait and have salmon on board, and you are south of horse mountain, you need barbless circles.

Its my understanding that as long as bait isn't used, a barbless circle hook is not required.  I believe you have to be using bait AND not trolling in order to be required to used barbless circle hooks.  For example, using a barbless jighead with swimbait would be ok.  There is that gray area about scents being considered bait so as long as its not scented swimbaits, you're good to go. 

I could be wrong so don't bash me.   

(3) Other Hook Restrictions. When fishing with bait in the ocean between Horse Mountain
(40°05’00” N. lat.) and Point Conception, if angling by any means other than trolling, then no more
than two (2) single point, single shank, barbless circle hooks shall be used.
The distance between the two hooks must not exceed five inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook, and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied).

Correct. If you are mooching bait and have salmon on board, and you are south of horse mountain, you need barbless circles.

But if I have a diamond jig with a barbless J-hook....I'm cool ?

I believe jigging for rock cod is like mooching for salmon.So a circle hook would be the regulation.I think.Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I hope you are wrong ,I have a bunch of jig heads that have barbed hooks.
Oh well ill get the dremel out tomorrow and start grinding

Its my understanding that as long as bait isn't used, a barbless circle hook is not required.  I believe you have to be using bait AND not trolling in order to be required to used barbless circle hooks.  For example, using a barbless jighead with swimbait would be ok.  There is that gray area about scents being considered bait so as long as its not scented swimbaits, you're good to go. 

I could be wrong so don't bash me.   

(3) Other Hook Restrictions. When fishing with bait in the ocean between Horse Mountain
(40°05’00” N. lat.) and Point Conception, if angling by any means other than trolling, then no more
than two (2) single point, single shank, barbless circle hooks shall be used.
The distance between the two hooks must not exceed five inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook, and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied).

Correct. If you are mooching bait and have salmon on board, and you are south of horse mountain, you need barbless circles.

But if I have a diamond jig with a barbless J-hook....I'm cool ?

Yup. That's not uncommon for me. Order some 5/0 barbless siwash hooks, replace diamond jig barbed trebles, go fishing and you're salmon legal. Bonus- with barbless single hooks you don't hang up as much and don't donate as many expensive diamond jigs to the rocks.

Its my understanding that as long as bait isn't used, a barbless circle hook is not required.  I believe you have to be using bait AND not trolling in order to be required to used barbless circle hooks.  For example, using a barbless jighead with swimbait would be ok.  There is that gray area about scents being considered bait so as long as its not scented swimbaits, you're good to go. 

I could be wrong so don't bash me.   

(3) Other Hook Restrictions. When fishing with bait in the ocean between Horse Mountain
(40°05’00” N. lat.) and Point Conception, if angling by any means other than trolling, then no more
than two (2) single point, single shank, barbless circle hooks shall be used.
The distance between the two hooks must not exceed five inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook, and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied).

Correct. If you are mooching bait and have salmon on board, and you are south of horse mountain, you need barbless circles.

But if I have a diamond jig with a barbless J-hook....I'm cool ?

Yup. That's not uncommon for me. Order some 5/0 barbless siwash hooks, replace diamond jig barbed trebles, go fishing and you're salmon legal. Bonus- with barbless single hooks you don't hang up as much and don't donate as many expensive diamond jigs to the rocks.

Muy Bueno!

thanks guys...er I think 

What the ????

You guys make this way more difficult than it needs to be.