Number of Fishing Rods With Rockcod Aboard

OK it is about time to wrap this up for me. I am not trying to argue the semantics. I truly believe the regs mean to allow the angler a choice if they unintentionally catch a salmon. Switch over to barbless or throw the salmon back. I heard a story of a party boat captain that offered everyone the choice, switch gear or the guy that caught the salmon has to throw it back. I guess I'm not the only one. I understand that it is possible that the regs are poorly written and their intent is to prohibit keeping any salmon caught in the ocean using barbed hooks. I noticed in the regs it says...
28.65
(e) North of Point Conception (34°27’00” N. lat.), where only one rod and line may be used by each angler fishing for salmon, or fishing from any boat or floating device with salmon on board.

But it also says this

27.80
(4) One Rod Restriction north of Point Conception. Salmon may be taken by angling with no more than one rod in ocean waters north of Point Conception. See Section 28.65(e).

They clearly say you can only be using one pole if you want to keep the salmon.

27.80
(3) Other Hook Restrictions. When fishing with bait in the ocean between Horse Mountain (40°05’00” N. lat.) and Point Conception, if angling by any means other than trolling, then no more than two (2) single point, single shank, barbless circle hooks shall be used. The distance between
the two hooks must not exceed five inches when measured from the top of the eye of the top hook to the inner base of the curve of the lower hook, and both hooks must be permanently tied in place (hard tied). A circle hook is defined as a hook with a generally circular shape, and a point which turns inwards, pointing directly to the shank at a 90 degree angle. Trolling is defined as angling from a boat or floating device that is making way by means of a source of power, other than drifting by means of the prevailing water current or weather conditions. See Section 28.65(g).

I notice here they don't say "when fishing for salmon or if salmon is n board". Sounds like you must follow these rules if you want to keep the salmon.

I wouldn't be surprised if 95% of the people on this forum could out fish me any day of the week. But we are talking reading comprehension not fishing. What the words mean, not what they are supposed to mean. Nit picky, maybe, but legal documents are supposed to be precise. When there is a question about meaning it can be helpful to look for how things are worded in other parts of the document. Since they seem to be able to use the necessary words when needed I assume they used different words in this case with the intent of them having a specific meaning. If that is not their intent, I would encourage them to fix the wording.

Book 'im, Dano.   

And we haven't even started talking about how to identify a king.

Salmon season is just around the corner. There will be plenty of DFG officers at the docks if you want to seek a second opinion of your interpretation of the regulations. The basic regulations are pretty straight forward and the nuances are the ones that take time to interpret correctly.

Like the movie ground hog day.hope you dont learn the hard way.  :l

And we haven't even started talking about how to identify a king.

Salmon season is just around the corner. There will be plenty of DFG officers at the docks if you want to seek a second opinion of your interpretation of the regulations. The basic regulations are pretty straight forward and the nuances are the ones that take time to interpret correctly.

That would be great if your answers from a DFG warden didn't change from officer to officer.

And we haven't even started talking about how to identify a king.

Salmon season is just around the corner. There will be plenty of DFG officers at the docks if you want to seek a second opinion of your interpretation of the regulations. The basic regulations are pretty straight forward and the nuances are the ones that take time to interpret correctly.

That would be great if your answers from a DFG warden didn't change from officer to officer.

Most folks rely on the "dark gums, light gums" rule to identify Chinook compared to coho.  But there's damn good reason to learn about more than one way to tell the two species apart.  Take this ___ salmon I caught in the Trinity River a couple years back.

If I am fishing for halibut, using multiple rods and I catch a rockfish?  i have to put that rockfish back, or I'm in violation.  If fishing for rockfish with one rod and I catch a salmon with the barbed hook on my shrimp fly jig (it could happen), I have to put that salmon back.

If I start the day drinking light beer while fishing, then switch to Guinness Stout, say goodbye. I  am probably never coming back.

So that's why I fish for salmon with barbless hooks.  Salmon and rockfish with only one rod (at a time), and I bring water or gatorade and occasionally coffee with me while fishing.


 
 

Bushy

If I am fishing for halibut, using multiple rods and I catch a rockfish?  i have to put that rockfish back, or I'm in violation.  If fishing for rockfish with one rod and I catch a salmon with the barbed hook on my shrimp fly jig (it could happen), I have to put that salmon back.

If I start the day drinking light beer while fishing, then switch to Guinness Stout, say goodbye. I  am probably never coming back.

So that's why I fish for salmon with barbless hooks.  Salmon and rockfish with only one rod (at a time), and I bring water or gatorade and occasionally coffee with me while fishing.


 
 

Bushy

Finally, wisdom.   

...and I like that cohokingthing, Chris - how many chromosomes?! 

I stick to the "silver dime" ridges between rays of the tail fin on a coho, but usually an ID can be made boatside with a face shot.

That thing you caught is a hatchery Frankenstein, right?...

Yeah Chris, is that thing even a salmon?  It's like a coastal cutthroat that has been injecting steroids. No idea what that frankenfish is.

And we haven't even started talking about how to identify a king.

Salmon season is just around the corner. There will be plenty of DFG officers at the docks if you want to seek a second opinion of your interpretation of the regulations. The basic regulations are pretty straight forward and the nuances are the ones that take time to interpret correctly.

That would be great if your answers from a DFG warden didn't change from officer to officer.

Most folks rely on the "dark gums, light gums" rule to identify Chinook compared to coho.  But there's damn good reason to learn about more than one way to tell the two species apart.  Take this ___ salmon I caught in the Trinity River a couple years back.

Stray Atlantic!

-Allen

I agree with Allen, sort of.  Trinity River?  sea run brown trout

Most folks rely on the "dark gums, light gums" rule to identify Chinook compared to coho.  But there's damn good reason to learn about more than one way to tell the two species apart.  Take this f***ed up salmon I caught in the Trinity River a couple years back.

  inserted.

but to be honest, female pinook.  But where the hell did someone find a pink to mate with?

I have my own thoughts on the ID, but I'm curious to see the other guesses folks come up with  .  Never thought about a pinook!

Skygreen finally ID'd !!