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Topic: Water bath method for transducer - ADVICE NEEDED  (Read 4567 times)

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newfish

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How thick should the foam be?   How much water should be under the transducer?


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Only needs to be just a little under. My ducer sits on the bottom of my kayak in a pool noodle. Water can't be more than a small film under it. Just need enough to not have air under it. My holder is, as a guess, about 1.5 inches high. It is just a little taller than the transducer.
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 :smt006

  Just have a pocket for the transducer that'll allow water to cover it by half, this way you can know for sure that there are no air bubbles under it.  I keep a small 8oz. bottled water bottle to drown my transducer.  Simply fill bottle at launch, drown transducer, then be on my way.

   :smt044 Thats how it's supposed to play out.  Lately my mental checklist of things to do before actually leaving the beach has not been complete! :smt044  Get out on the water to discover my FF is acting up?  WTH? Of corse I can't reach (Comfortable yet) the transducer, as I have in the front hatch of my OB, so I have to head in!  Then, smack myself for forgetting to drown the darn transducer!  DOH......
« Last Edit: March 04, 2013, 11:49:12 AM by CGN-38 »


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prob a 1/4 cup (at most). I normally cup my hand and scoop water in (once or twice)
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pool noddle with a notch for water to go down around and under transducer.  I use an old pill bottle (small) which I keep in the pouch above the trans and pour one bottle worth of water into the noodle, seems to work great for a couple of years now.
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If you aren't set on using foam, you should also consider doing the duct seal method. Duct seal is a putty-like product that you can mold to whatever shape you want to house the transducer. You can buy it for about $3.99 at Ace Hardware, and it only takes about 5 minutes to install from start to finish. The water bath is the same as the foam method, although the duct seal is removable. I've been using it with 2 different transducers for about 8 months and it has yet to fail me.
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You should've ask me when you was over here.I wouldve been able to break it down to you a little better in person.I bought the premolded ones and glued three of them together.if the search function on this site has got a little better you could chase it down in the gearing up section.if its still there, there are pics

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Duct seal is the way to go. It's like clay that never hardens but sticks to the surface forever. Make a holder for the transducer, stick it in there, fill it with water and go fishin!
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I've been using Hobies transducer pad for years. Even before I had a Hobie on my X factor I used the pad.
http://m.austinkayak.com/store.php?ID=1745
There're cheap ($3.25) and fit really well. Just goop the pad down and toss a hand full of water around the puck before you launch. Works like a charm, easy, and you can move the unit to another kayak if you need to. I do zip tie the wire rather tight so when I transport my kayak upside down the puck will just sort of hang there and not hit the other side.


Fuzzy Tom

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Mine's probably 1" high.  I cut the foam a little smaller than the transducer so I'm able to put the TD and water in before I load up at home and it all stays in the foam even though I have to tip the kayak at quite an angle to get it on the racks.  I've had the same foam doughnut for over 5 years, for some reason the goop holding it doesn't come loose, though the yak is never upside down.


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I know this is a bit of a thread jack, but if you plan on doing a lot of freshwater fishing, I suggest you look into a way of scupper mounting so that you can get accurate temp readings.  End thread jack.
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I like the Liberator so I don't have to worry about what's going on inside my yak where it is hard to see on the water.

Looks stupid but zero interference, accurate temp reading, and I can easily reach it at any time to fiddle with it if necessary.

http://madfroggear.com/liberator/liberator.html


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Glad I found this thread. I am seriously considering the water bath transducer setup. I saw on youtube how it was done with duct seal. Does this mounting method give you better temperature accuracy through the hull?  Does a chopped off pool noodle glued down hold water? 


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it gives a very accurate temp reading of inside the hull.  :smt001 But If your not worried about reading the water temp, this is the way to go. I did it like this for a couple years.
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 :smt006
  One thing to note about FF Transducers, they use Ultrasonic pulses. These Ultrasoinic pulses can generate heat.  If one only uses a tiny amount of water in a "Wet Bath" mount, to form a "Thin film" beneath the transducer, the water may be boiled off.  Remember most transducer were designed to be in the water. (Except those labeled as "Through hull")

 


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