how to secure wheels

So I made some wheels out of pvc and golf caddy wheels, work pretty good less the one exception: when I slip them in place in the drain holes I have to temporarily bungee them on so they don't fall out when I tip the yak over to set it on the wheels, anyone have a clever/quicker way to do this besides the bungee?  I was thinking of some sort of sleeve that fit over the 3/4 pvc pipe that would create enough of a friction fit to do the trick but not too much such that they would be hard to dislodge when that time came.

best solution i (we all) have found is using this....

http://www.wheeleez.com/kayak-cart-beach.php

There's a ton of discussion about this type of stuff in here somewhere, even with the search function it might be hard to dig up.

But, the plastic in and around the scupper holes that you are putting the pipe up thru can sometimes be really thin and easily damaged. 

Allot of people use tham as you are (and I have) but it's not a good idea as you may cause a leak that you won't detect til you're out there.

Many, many of us ( including me 3X) have tried our hand a building carts but, but in the end go to wheeleze and wish we had sooner.

I second (or third, or forth...) the Wheeleez recommendation... I resisted as long as I could, and now I'm wondering why the hell I didn't just buy them years ago... Just makes the whole door-to-door fishing experience SOOOO much more enjoyable. Cobbles? Gravel? Sand? Uneven ground? Potholes? Doesn't matter... The balloon wheels just float right over it.

Ahhh - since the search function isn't 'user friendly' - I'll join the ranks of recommending Wheeleez (...oh, why wouldn't I listen) 

I have found there are tricks to using the wheeleze, but I love mine.
 I yank my boat over a couple of rough launch points, and wide beaches. I use two straps (not just a long single one). I have cut and sewn them with a loop to use a larks-head around the frame tubes, but you can buy them set up this way through NRS as well.
Other than 2 straps, you need to secure the forward strap to the hull so that the whole thing doesn't slide back and fall off. I use a little carabiner through one of the padeyes behind the seat of my yak.
Set up like this and the yak will tip over before the wheels come off.

As has been stated, the wheeleze really are the ultimate for the rough stuff. The through-the-scupper carts work fine until you encounter rough trails or load your yak heavily. That's when the wear and torque against the scuppers becomes a problem.

I have great luck using the two straps that came with the Wheeleez. One goes in front of my seat, and one behind. This holds it solidly in place.D

So I made some wheels out of pvc and golf caddy wheels, work pretty good less the one exception: when I slip them in place in the drain holes I have to temporarily bungee them on so they don't fall out when I tip the yak over to set it on the wheels, anyone have a clever/quicker way to do this besides the bungee?  I was thinking of some sort of sleeve that fit over the 3/4 pvc pipe that would create enough of a friction fit to do the trick but not too much such that they would be hard to dislodge when that time came.

OK, so re-reading this I DO actually have an answer to your question (that isn't about wheeleze).
The old collapsible style of scupper cart that Ocean Kayak made had a short strap with a fastex-type buckle on the top of the posts. You would push the uprights through the scuppers, then clip the strap together between the posts. This kept the cart from falling out while you moved the yak.

Hobie carts have a pin that keeps them in place. Would be pretty easy to adapt a for of this. Use a hitch clip and drill a hole at the top of the up right. Lift boat up from side in the middle. Slip cart thorough scuppers, pull boat back over on to cart then pin in place.

Thank you Piscean and Jbaker for staying on point, just not ready to pull the Wheeleez trigger yet, did not realize scupper stress was an issue (thank you all for that) since I was just copying the Hobie wheels but I may redesign the supports to follow the two grooves I have on the bottom of my hull (revo).

Thank you Piscean and Jbaker for staying on point, just not ready to pull the Wheeleez trigger yet, did not realize scupper stress was an issue (thank you all for that) since I was just copying the Hobie wheels but I may redesign the supports to follow the two grooves I have on the bottom of my hull (revo).

Really, the point is (and always should be) you do not want your kayak to sink when you are offshore.  Carts through the scupper holes have been proven to create leaks. Make sure to wear your PFD and carry a submesible VHF.

LOL

Allen

 

What year revo? If its a 2012 or 13 the rear scuppers have been sleeved to take the punishment of a scupper cart. I would suggest looking at the cart post clamps hobies has out now too. There $10 a set

I like the Sea-to-Summit scupper cart for my Trident. It has the cone shaped rubber that keeps it from moving around, which is where you get scupper wear from. I also travel light so, not a lot of weight on my boat.  No need for any straps as it will not fall out even lifting the kayak.  The Wheeliz are better if you have a lot of soft sand travel but, I typically do not. The big plus for me was $72 bucks delivered to my door versus about $240 which I think is an insane markup.  If you have the dollars go for it but, I am really happy with mine.  Very quick to get on and off and fits inside my front hatch (so will the Wheeliz) no going back to the car.

 

 

  Something that came to mind after reading his post, he mentioned something about friction?  I thnk thats a bad idea.  Get some sand or drit (any grit) up in the scupper tube then wha-La it's stuck!  Now your forcably pulling out the PVC causing the grit (whatever it is ) to scratch into the scupper walls.  Over time this won't end well.
  Having said this, I still use my stock Hobie wheels/cart, and curse it every stinkin' time!
Worst time was at Paradise park!  That damn hill to the parking lot bout killed me hauling that damn fully loaded OB back up!