Ling Baits?

Allan not to be a bait snob but your curly tail is rootbeer not motor oil 

I love the root beer curly tail, it slays the cabs and lings...

Randy: It looks like some braid is connected to the hook and then crimped at the top loop? How is this attached to the main or leader line?

That's exactly what I was talking about minus the wire leader(?)...great pix. I'll have to try the tinsel this year.

It's constructed with a tinsel-wrapped squid head pushed up inside a hootchie.  Then run a piece of light wire (38# in this case) through the top. crimp a swivel with a siwash hook on the lower end and a swivel snap on the top, and you're done!


Randy

Allan not to be a bait snob but your curly tail is rootbeer not motor oil 

I love the root beer curly tail, it slays the cabs and lings...

If that's rootbeer, then what is motor oil? 

-Allen

Swim baits-Iron-Hootchie-B2 This stuff is all foreign to me. I would really like to catch a ling cod and I am trying to get ready for July 1. I would really like to see more pics of the set-ups you all are using including the weights (irons) I need to go shoping and want to get the right stuff. How about the baits for rock fish?
Thanks for any help.
Jack

Here are some pics for rock cod gear
the standard setup is to use 2 shrimp flies with a round weight on the bottom( 6-8 ounces)
you can also attach some iron on the bottom of a shrimpfly rig but you have to remove one of the hooks because the regs say you can only have 2 hooks on the rig besides shrimp flies farralon feathers also work great. white seems to be the best color
I have also had good succsess tying feathers on to a lead head jig
ling cod will often be caught hitchiking on to your rock cod so fishing for rock cod can often catch you a ling as well.
good luck on the first.
                                   Morgan

Allan not to be a bait snob but your curly tail is rootbeer not motor oil 

I love the root beer curly tail, it slays the cabs and lings...

If that's rootbeer, then what is motor oil? 

-Allen

Motor oil has more green in it. See if you can track gone a big a kalins Motor Oil and Red Flake grubs to see what I mean, I can't really find a good pic online.

My recipe for motor oil is:

2 black
4 amber
5 yellow
10 flourescent yellow

Rootbeer is like:

8 rootbeer
4 Red

Ahhh, I get it ...  you can see that the skirt I have on the jig is indeed motoroil, so I was half right.   

-Allen

Here's the j ig:



And here's the results:



Here's some more jigs (the epoxy is drying):

 
Can't beat that for *BLING*, and it's no coincidence that 'ling' is contained in that word. 

Yeah Josh I always like your jigs. You should put a little epoxy on the heads after you de-mold them so they stay nice and shiny.

Josh - you should be selling that stuff!

Josh- very nicely made. How well do the tinsel stay on? Do they get tore up after a few short lings?

Randy- thanks for the clarification.

Allen- thanks for putting up the pic of the iron jig dressed with a B2 squid.

Have any of you guys seen diamon type jigs shaped like a squid and glows? Seen it on some website, looks like it would work well for lings and/or halibut.

You guys and gals are just to cool Sharing your baits Thank all of you very much.

Different tinsels have different strengths, so it's really up to the material.  The above stuff was from walmart and cost about 5c/jig in the after chrismas sale - it holds up very well.  Smaller fish do tend to nibble at the strands and you do lose strands now and then, but I put on enough that I don't run out.  I tie it on with about 20 wraps of old spectra and coat the spectra with a layer of epoxy to keep it from unraveling.  Here's the above jig (that caught those fish) with it's brother that I brought to big sur and caught about 60 fish with.  The big sur jig took some damage, but no soft plastic would last through that many fish either.  The fort ross jig has some kinks in the tinsel, but is otherwise still good to go.



I got the idea from tinsel hoochie stuffers, now those do get picked clean rapidly by small rockfish yet aren't big enough to call a decent ling at only ~3".  The first tinsel I got (in the summer) came from a craft store and looked like this:

It didn't hold up all that well either (tore easilly) but it did catch fish:

Those fish bit bare tinsel, no squid, pro-cure or anything.  (pescadero)  That was my first test of a tinsel jig and I was impressed. 

I actually spray painted those jig heads silver, but they were recycled and dremel resharpened so weren't in the best shape.  Really though, I don't want the fish biting the head, I want them to go for the middle of the tinsel 'body' where the hook is.  When you close your hand over the tinsel you can see how little body the stuff actually has - the hook is extremely exposed.   This allows a bit of squid to be added without overloading the hook (like with squid on a scampi).  The tinsel also holds onto pro-cure grease pretty well, though feathers would be better. 

They aren't really poofy in the water, instead all the tinsel clings together to form a shiny imitation of an anchovy, but since the drag of the tinsel is so low it bounces around the head erratically if you just let the jig hang and wiggle the rod.

I'm thinking to tie one of these jigs with 2 tandem octopus hooks and trolling it for halibut behind a dodger in the bay with my zodiac.  Should work wickedly well since I already know halibut like tinsel.

Right on. Thanks for the additional info on the tinsel. Those jigs do look fishy...

they look good, too good tho, you need the fun of replacing them!