04.17.12 - Shore fishing Stevens Creek

For the carp....bread crust on a bait holder hook....no weight, top water carpin at its finest.

Thank you, Art.  I passed this on to Joel but was informed "carps are bottom feeders."

Dough baits are the way to go. From the cheap bread variety to home made to something from Berkeley. I had a friend who used to make up "bread dough flies" to catch carp on the Russian River with. He caught quite a few. Supposedly the carp fight about as good as a Steelhead.

Nice outing Mooch and cute little bass! When the carp are thick like that I'm pretty sure you can catch em with your hands, I think you might need a good rod if they're big, I had one on one time and it was like draggin around a brick....

use pileworms for trhe carp mooch.

Mooch,

Fly lining a piece of sourdough bread with a bit of crust so that it stays floating on top of the water will do it. When that carp (or crap as it is called at Ranch 99) inhales it just free spool it and let him take at 20 or so feet of line. Then set that hook and hold on. Real fun on 4 lb test.

Antonio

Pretty sure the carp here in CA is not the same quality of table fare as the euro grass carp...

thanks for all the tips. IMO, carp are very under-rated. I've caught 'em using hardwear and always enjoyed the fight that these fish give.

This particular carp must have been really hungry cause it hit a trolled shad rapala while I was targeting stripers. I thought I had a record striper 

For the carp....bread crust on a bait holder hook....no weight, top water carpin at its finest.

Thank you, Art.  I passed this on to Joel but was informed "carps are bottom feeders."

Kooks.....can't teach em nothing.  They eat alot of surface bugs and vegetation.  Sight fishing for them is fun stuff.

Joel needs to go to a koi pond for a couple hours to observe and learn.

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Met up for an hour with Joel today.  Funny thing is he forgot he wanted to fish for carp so we fished for bass since he didn't buy any bread    Neither of us were getting bites, me playing around with a weightless senko and Joel with his whatever-retired-jig-somthing-or-rather. 

Then, out of NO WHERE! Joel ...... (TBC)


 

.....I can't talk about "the incident" right now. I'll need a few days to get over it 

Spent tons of time carp fishing as a kid. Caught a few in the 20# size range out of clear lake too. They are very odd fish and will take a variety of lures just not with any predicatability. I have often heard of people using flies and fly rods to catch them. The fight is nothing to write home about especailly size vs. strength. I think catfish fight harder.

I have used the floating bread crust technique with sucess but the method I used most often was making a sandwitch with just peanut butter and  forming that on a treble hook no weight. The time of year will decide how much you get bit with less bites during cold water and the spawn. Generally if the fish are schooling they are in spawn mode and won't bite. I had my best success early morning after I had been tossing a little bread out the night before. They don't tend to bite at night but the catfish will.     

We've caught them all day long in Lodi lake, and the river that feeds it, using nightcrawlers.

Mooch, it's always great to see otw! Hope to see ya soon brother

Don't know abow carp bait but I know a recipe. BBQ them on a cedar plank with a mesquite fire. Baste with garlic butter turning 3-4 times until fish will flake from the bone. When done, throw away the fish and eat the cedar board. 

 

  A nice fiberglass fish arrow launched from an appropriate bow work well.