36.55'00 122.06'54

coastside dude posted these santa cruz #'s, 180 to 190 feet of water.

Does anybody know how to put these into a mapping site and get out an 'X' marks the spot?

I'm curious how far a paddle this is, not that I want that exact spot, but it would give me some
idea about salmon in santa cruz.

J

I made a couple changes to the coord format and loaded into google map.
Not sure if it is exactly right.

well, the result looks plausible.

al, how did you change the numbers? converted to decimal rep from hms?

looks 3.5 to 4 miles southwest of natural bridges? 

got any way of plotting distance to natural bridges?

looks fairly do-able, plus you get that rockfish fishing off natural bridges if you strike out (once the season
opens).

Blue, what do you think about this one? Stu?

I changed: 36.55'00   122.06'54

To: 36 55.00   -122 06.54

Then loaded into the google map search line.

If the posted lat/lon was in DMS then I believe the proper translation to decimal degrees would be...

36 + 55/60 + 00/3600 = 36.91666667 Latitude
-1*(122 + 06/60 + 54/3600) = -122.115 Longitude

You need to make sure what the format is ... Degrees Minutes Seconds or  Degrees Decimal Minutes  or Decimal Degrees.   All of these can be queried in google maps.

Search 36 55 00 n  122 06 54 w    ( if this is DMS)
          36 55.00 n  122 6.54 w      (for degrees decimal minutes)

Note that 6 min 54 sec = 6.9 min which is a difference of 0.36 minutes from the other version or about a half mile!  (there are roughly 1.15 standard miles per minute longitude at this latitude)


Brian

John,

Here is a GPS calculator. 

http://www.fishsantacruz.com/gpscalc/gpscalc.aspx

Stuart

wow, some navigational and google skillz on this board! thanks!

well brian's version put the spot a little further from natural bridges, 0.5 mile or so. I think the original was posted as DMS.

okay, here would be an interesting way to do things. It would be a full day adventure, not quite in bluekayak class, but close.

You can launch out of 4-mile beach. it's a beach 4 miles north of santa cruz. There is a dirt trail down to the beach,
it's a bit of a hike, but it's down hilll. some sand the last few yards. I fished out of here twice last year looking for
halibut in september.  I have probably surfed this spot more than any other over the years.

Once could leave a vehicle in santa cruz, head up to 4 mile. launch and do a big crescent, pretty much with the
prevailing wind swinging generally south and east,  back into santa cruz.

This might be a way to get way out there in salmon waters, but still get home without paddling
like a maniac into nasty wind.  It would be a 10 mile crescent.  you'd be in the exposed water early and
the protected water later.

that actually sounds like a pretty fun little transit.

the popular salmon area up there is called three trees, and it's real close to those numbers.  If you look on a chart, there are branches of submarine canyon that come in in that area called 'the fingers.'  when salmon fishing is on anyplace in that area can produce fish, usually in 180-300 ft of water.

I'd be into the shuttle routine with you, wanna try it on a weekday soon?  Maybe week after next?

Allen

I posted both the points in a mapping program deg min sec and deg min dec min.  when I measured distance it was about .7 miles between the two points.  I wanted to test if I could do this any way.

I am strictly a weekend warrior right now. I guess that's good, means my company is doing well, but there you go.

I can do it saturday or sunday only I think. If the bite was insane, I could give myself off a weelday maybe.

Unless we get bought in the short term, then I will negotiate myself a month off!  Or if we go out of business,
then I will have a few months off, 

also turns out I have a house in santa cruz for May, right by the harbour. I'll only be there on weekends tho. 

We should try harder to calculate the actual travel distance first, if you you come in at natural bridges, that's one thing.
If you come in all the way to the harbour that's another. what do you suggest?

I pretty much just eyeballed it and figured it's about equivalent to paddling out to mulligans and coming in with the sw wind
or paddling to the northside and coming back with the northwest wind.

but it's no calkwalk, better bring a couple bottles of water and some food.

I also have looked at wind charts like:

http://www.weather.nps.navy.mil/wx/latest_mbay.gif

which show that on a standard wind-from-nw day we would generally have the wind at our backs the whole time.

a following sea, while not exhausting like paddling into the wind, is still a little nerve wracking as your boat tends to yaw
a lot if you don't have much forward speed.

also, regarding the launch:

scallen, in all my years of surfing, I have only once been down to 1 mile once. I can not remember if that is launchable. 
I know that the trail down to 3 mile is too steep for a kayak. and besides, it only cuts off a bit from 4 mile.  Do you have
any alternate launches to offer? How about the exit? harbour or natural bridges? harbour would involve no walk, but it
is further. once you have made it to the safety of santa cruz, drifting to the harbour might be worth not having to
pull a kayak over the natural bridges sand. What do you think?

Ed, can you calculate the distance of a likely launch from four mile (it's the headland north of wilder ranch) out to three
trees and in to natural bridges or the harbour?

J

J, I can plan a general route and measure distance I will also post a map so I can be sure I went from and to the correct spots.  As I look closer at the map I think the minute decimal point is the correct one, the one in seconds is outside the three mile state waters according to my program which would make it in federal waters I think.  I understand trying to time it right, I am waiting for the right day to launch Marina State beach and float to Monteray past soldiers club. 
Ed

jmairey, ed-

I don't know which beach you're referring to as 'one mile'....nut anyway, I'd pass NB's and recover at mitchell's Cove, which is pretty easy, usually if the swell is light.  Or, a short paddle to the wharf where there's a floating dock public access.  Of course, once, you're at the wharf, the harbor is only 10 minute paddle beyone.

I like the idea of getting out to the deep on a one- way trip with the wind and it would be best to ave company for the safety and the shuttle factors.

I mentioned weekdays, cause my weekends are getting full already.

good news is that the season goes all summer.

BTW- we might have an "all-time' season this year.  Conditions are much like 95 when salmon season was phenomenal.. Late winter big snowpack, everything 6-8 weeks late....  Brett Townsend was on the radio Thursday (he owns central valleymarine- excellent and long-time fisherman) he was bold enough to make the prediction that salmon fishing would be RED HOT by June!!??!!

I stay away from predictions myself, but would love to see his come to pass.  Let's look at schedules and figure a definite time to do this, Could be great fun. Maybe we can get a flotilla going.  Four Mile would be the perfect launch...paddle straight out at dawn then hook a left to drift/troll back to SC



Allen

J, I wish I had better knowledge of SC I had to guess on 4 mile off of Sat image and your description.  I planned the route straight line, I figure it would give you a start point for planning.  If I got four mile wrong just tell me and I can adjust the route. 
Ed

Ed, cool map!

I think the start point is a bit too far south. I don't know the GPS coords of
4-mile beach and I'm not sure how to get them other than go surf and
bring my GPS,  .

But close enough for a first estimate.

so how long is the track you have plotted? we can probably just add 40% to the
distance and it'll give us a fairly safe estimate.

regarding your hoped for transit, check that wind map I posted, it might not be downwind.

The wind kind of funnels into or out of the salinas river valley for the most part, with some funky
local eddies and general sea to shore in the afternoon.

J