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Topic: water temp./salmon  (Read 1341 times)

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jselli

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  • Date Registered: May 2005
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With weather the way it is and fishing at a low I thought I would pass the time looking at how the Salmon season may be if it is open.

I was looking at water temperatures as that was one of the main causes for a poor season last year.  According to http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/cpac.html it looks like the Farrallon Island water temperature is 6.2 dergrees lower this year than last. I think. Can anyone figure out the chart to double check me.

If that is the case a good question is will our coastal water temperatures be more conducive to the salmon this year?

Jason
...The sea, once it casts its spell
holds one in its net of wonders forever.
                          Jacques Cousteau


basilkies

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Last year the water temp wasn't that bad for Salmon. They like it around 51 to 53 degrees. The bigger issue was there wasn't much krill. Salmon feed on krill and bait fish. So, what happened was the salmon didn't get as near to shore as much as usual, but you could find them in near shore areas with steep drop offs, like off the North side of Point Reyes. The salmon seemed to stay a littler deeper and out in deeper water. There was never a big bite near Dillon beach or the bouys near Bodega Bay where I fish. That's the first year I have seen that happen.

The lack of krill was also tied to bird and seal deaths from starvation, last year. I consider all this talk of Humbolt Squid bad news. They used to swing by every 20 years, we have had them 3 years iin a row now. The squid nomally hang out in Mexican waters and further south. This indicates warmer water temps.

This could all be tied in to Global Warming. Scientists have discovered that in the Northern Arctic Ocean the water has warmed. This has messed up the food chain up there. They  now have Atlantic Cod and Pacific Salmon feeding at the arctic and Sea Lions, Polar Bears and Seals are dying off or moving to colder water. This might be the reason that more sea lions are being seen down here.

There are over a 1000 Sea lions and Seals at the Bonneville Dam in Oregon this year. Not to mention that more have been seen in San Francisco Bay. People have also seen them eating Salmon and Sturgeon. This is the first I have ever heard of a Seal Lion seen eating a sturgeon so I'm guessing they are desperate for food. I also believe that salmon is not a natural choice of food for seal and sea lions because when they catch one they only bite the stomach out and leave the rest of the fish. So that means there isn't enough bait fish which is their preferred diet.

Either a bunch of sea life is going to die off or things are going to change around a bit. For instance there was a small group of fisherman working just inside the SF bay mouth catching White Sea Bass, last year.  White Sea Bass like warmer water, so it appears they are moving in this direction.

The reason you don't hear more about this stuff is no one takes a holistic view of the situation, yet. You get these individual reports of events, but no one looking at all the events and bringing it together in a big picture. They have just begun to do this, this year in the Arctic.  I believe the Federal Government is only now looking at budgeting money to look at the whole Ocean wildlife and weather thing for off the coast on the lower 48 states.

Personally, I don't see things getting better overall, Sport fishing as we know is never going to  be the same and in few years these will be the 'good old days'.


Wildrooster

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  • Date Registered: Oct 2015
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The world is always changing it one of the first things we were told in school the ice age killed off the dinosaurs ect just before everyone stared saying global warming is going to wipe us off the earth the same scientists were telling us how we were in danger from a second ice age
Here somting to chew one
Extinction is part of the evaluation of earth animals always do what they think is best for them 
Including most humans  and the world will always change regardless of weather man is here or not
Removing man will not save the earth the earth didn't need saving
It's just changing
O and this      http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-is-antarcticas-sea-ice-growing-as-temperatures-rise-180947775/
glade you made it
now let's get our fish on

Ascend FS128T
Hobie AI yellow


DeltaYakR

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  • Location: East bay, Delta
  • Date Registered: Mar 2014
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Seals here in the delta-bay have been eating sturgeon for decades.


 

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