Rivets?

i am in the process of ordering some more Pad eyes and rivets from Hook1 today,  Question on the rivets, do you need to drill a small hole prior to installing the rivets, or is the rivet alone used with a blind rivet gun ok for going through the hull of the kayak?
Also, ordered the Eagle/Cuda 350 today....
Oh, the fun begins.

I always drill a hole and insert the rivet in, but that is me as I have an old manual rivet gun.

Must drill hole first. 

2nd piece of advice is to drill one side/hole first. Then rivet that side in place. Then mark, drill and secure the other side. Pretty easy to have the two holes be off by just a bit if you drill them both first.

Is there any local shops that carry the rivets and guns?  I've had a hard time finding them locally.

2nd piece of advice is to drill one side/hole first. Then rivet that side in place. Then mark, drill and secure the other side. Pretty easy to have the two holes be off by just a bit if you drill them both first.

good hunk of advise, actually thought of that one as my eyes ain't what they used to be.

Is there any local shops that carry the rivets and guns?  I've had a hard time finding them locally.

I just use the manual rivet gun from home depot works just fine. As for the rivets....Aquan or Outback Adventures or order them on line. I have used regular alum. rivets with a washer for some simple installs. But you need access if you wanna place a washer on the inside.

Search marson clik-fast rivet guns. I have used these in the body shop for over 37 years still a great company with a great product.

I have a small stash of rivets and padeyes if you need them right away.  Got rivet gun too.

Should be able to find one in OSH I'd think.

I think I have a Home depot one, it has a swivel head, I like it because sometimes you can't get the whole thing in there.

So, the rivets from Hook1 are 3/16", do you drill a 3/16" hole or down size it one size for a really tight fit?

So, the rivets from Hook1 are 3/16", do you drill a 3/16" hole or down size it one size for a really tight fit?

3/16" hole.

they are plenty tight with 3/16" you'll have to twist them in.

Cool, thanks guys, I really want to make sure before I start drilling holes in the boat.