Prowler 15 vs Trident for Ocean Fishing

I know that the P15 rides lower and is a wetter ride than the Trident.  But I was wondering if anyone can give me a general guideline on a person's weight, above which it makes more sense to get the Trident than the P15?

I pimped my Plano today...2 spools of leader under the lid

I'd love to see pictures if you have then Sean.  How easy is it to switch out leader?

Michael

Marmite,
took my new trident out of carmel today for its maiden voyage.  Im 270 and in tarpons or prowlers 13/15 my butt is always wet.  Today, I was dry the whole time.  So you can use that as one point on the weight number line.

I found it to be excellent, and with far better real world comfort than I expected from my 'test drive.'

Eugene

I know that the P15 rides lower and is a wetter ride than the Trident.  But I was wondering if anyone can give me a general guideline on a person's weight, above which it makes more sense to get the Trident than the P15?

Depends how much junk you carry. Right now I weigh 210, but I always load way too much gear, plus down south its a live bait thing and that wet stuff is really heavy (bait tank). Still, the P15 could take it. It was always a wet ride anyway. The biggest problem for me, I'd often end up nose heavy, 'cause all the below-decks storage is up front. HTH.

Paul

I know that the P15 rides lower and is a wetter ride than the Trident.  But I was wondering if anyone can give me a general guideline on a person's weight, above which it makes more sense to get the Trident than the P15?

Doug -

A tough decision for you because I know you would like a lighter boat from your Tarpon 14.0. The Trident would suit your tackle better, although your Humminbird may be too big for the sonar compartment which would be a problem unless you went with a smaller unit. I guess they didn't think anyone would be using sidescan on a yak.  The other issue is where to mount your articulating gizmo. The Trident I suspect would be about the same weight as your Tarpon. The P15 would be lighter and faster than your Tarpon but wetter and harder on the buttocks. Personally, the wet ride really doesn't bother me since the only time I wear shorts is when it is really hot and my shorts are waterproof anyway. Let's face it kayaking is a wet sport.  As PAL mentioned, the P15 can actually carry well over 250# of stuff. The real limiting issue is your leg length. The P15 doen not have a very big cockpit, a problem the was fixed in the P13 and Trident. so you won't see many really tall guys paddling them.

Scott

Thanks for the input.  PAL, how tall are you, or more precisely how long is your inseam?  Do you ever feel cramped in the P15 cockpit?

PAL, how tall are you,

6 ft, 32 in inseam. I use the next to last heel cup in the 15 when cruising, and shorten up one more during a sprint. I feel cramped in a Scupper; the P15 is plenty spacious for me. I understand taller guys (6-2, 6-4) sometimes have issues. Only one way to find out how it suits you...

If I wanted to pick-up a Prowler or a Trident.......
What is the going price New or Old??? Im a poor Guy

I was lucky to pick up my lightly used angler P15 during the winter of 2006. I paid $550 it included a phiranna FF, battery, seat and scotty rod holder. The only other kayak I ever paddled was a tandem Malibu 2 xl.
Im 6-1,225 and feel very comfortable in the P15 kayak. I did purchase a better seat, a crazy creek high back. $85. Compares to the $150 seats out there. The thicker padding in the seat was very noticeable at first. Made the yak feel a little tippy. Now Im used to it.
There have been a couple times that I wished I had a rudder. It seems that any cross wind over 10 knots makes it a challenge to track straight. I do like the speed of this kayak. I would say that Im a bit on the heavy side with all my gear loaded. Yet the P15 paddles quite easy. Im planning on adding to the quiver next year. Im looking forward to trying out the trident among others. After two fishing seasons with the P15, I feel like I will have a good base to compare to. I appreciate all the imput this site brings. Aloha Kimo

Catchback... Call up your local shop, or MBK.... Ocean Kayaks are pretty much retailed at an MSRP, but deals are not uncopomon towards the end of the season.  Probably will not see deals on the Trident, cause it is so new, but one never knows. If prioce point is paramount for you, the P-15 is the more logical choice.  A few here and there offered for sale used, usually around 550-700.

Hope this helps!

Allen

Catchback,

I'm 6'5", 210lbs, I have a P13, don't have wet butt syndrome, and even with my long legs, I've got plenty of cockpit room.. I love this boat...

Rich

Since the P15 is being discontinued, might be able to pick one up at discount later this year. http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,13487.0.html

I own a trident and share a P15 with a buddy. I rode my P15 for about 1.5 years before buying the Trident. I agree with most the points that Great Bass made, especially for someone his size. I m 6'4". 215 with a 34+ inch inseam. The P15 was cramped for me, forcing me to use a high angle paddling style, due to having my knees bent more than I'd like. The Trident is much dryer and drains far better. I find it faster in all conditions, especially when it is rough; although I have rudders on both boats, so I am not fighting the wind as much as I would without the rudder. The Trident  "weathervanes" far more than the P15, but the rudder corrects that.

Overall I much prefer the Trident, although if the cockpit were bigger it would be a closer match.

After test paddling the Tarpon 14 and 16', the Trident 15, and a Malibu X-13, I went with the P15. It's a little wet, however, I plugged the 2 seat scuppers and it's fine now. Love this kayak on big ocean swells and confused water...it's speed has gotten me out of trouble a few times and it's pretty darn stable too. Happy with my purchase and found it on sale at Sport Chalet for $599., (angler version) and with a OK high back seat too. They said they would keep them on sale until gone. In some ways I miss my P13 (sold it) due to it's ability to turn rather quickly, excellent cockpit, and comfort...but, I wanted more speed and stability (especially in those 8' swells). Great kayak at any price.