Pot Stirring Time

Oh, they're already making the run down there. But most of their Sur trips take place in summer-fall months. But check the huge increase in Sur reports on Coastside. Enterprising anglers will chase a report of hot rockfishing all the way down the coast.

That's true, but nobody has to check fishing reports online to see if the rockies are biting.  By and large our best rockfishing spots aren't very accessible to folks other  than fellow kayakers. 

So, you telling people to simply not post, is both counterintuitive, and at odds with the very nature of the conversation.  I'm not looking to bust your balls or anything, but could you be a little more constructive?

Two points just to continue to stir the pot:
1) You have to be careful about how you read meaning into words. There is no inflection, no tone, no body language for you to read on the web. The interpretation of a few words, can significantly alter the meaning.
"This board is starting to sound more and more like coastside..."

2) The nature and spirit of the web is open and public, the "registration" we are speaking of here is open and public.  So, if you really don't want someone to "steal" your spot- you can't post about it. Posting is equivalent to taking an ad out in the NY times.
There are times when i will post an exact location of stripers, or whatever- other times i won't. In those cases where i make the personal choice to try to limit the # of folks that hammer some poor school, i try to give a decent but slightly cryptic descritpion-- and people will figure it out, and I hope they do. Other times i won't post at all, but rather call or PM a few friends.  Its not right or wrong, but my personal choice on how i will behave to both contribute and protect this community.

SteveS, after rereading what I posted, I think I came off too harsh.  No offense man.  LOL: underhanded politician... is there any other kind?

hah! i just finished reading all the way down... no offense taken.  Previous comments still apply.

Far more constructive comments SteveS... I knew you had it in ya... LOL

far more constructive?

there the same comments! you don't want someone stealing your spots, don't post- i just used more words.

LOL

Yes, but you put it so much more eloquently... sometimes its not what you say, but how you say it.  (you sorta said that already too)

Look, you are obviously right... If you post people will boost... or is it that if you boast people will pooch.  Now I'm confused.  I think what most of us are getting at here, is not that we are pissed that people may steal spots.  Its that they don't share with us so that we can steal their spots.  Its the lack of give, and the abundance of take.  No real solution here, just some ax grinding.  Argument for the sake of argumentation.

I say "It ain't broke, don't fix it"

Allen

Also, frankly, we mostly catch rockfish and it's not like people are after recon info on where the rockies are biting. 

It comes up very often, every year, on every website.  Its alot more prevalent on other sites but it happens here too.  I'm not against sharing info but I'd like to know where it was going and who was seeing it.  

That's true, but nobody has to check fishing reports online to see if the rockies are biting.  

They don't have to but they do.  There is Rockfish in Santa Cruz but who's targeting them?  Very few.  Why?  Because the reports from Monterrey are better.  Rockfish do not always bite either.  When the swell is up it takes a day or two for them to come out of hiding.  Shallow spots may take a day or two longer than that.  Moon phases, tides, protection from the swell/wind, fishing pressure....it all affects the bite and its not always wfo. With gas prices the way they are people are not willing to drive 2 hours to a scratch bite.  


PAL boats may not have made that run in years past but with MLPA's, no salmon and slowing business I'm sure they'll make the run and cahrge accordingly to compensate for the gas costs. Dabs and mackeral will not pay the bills all summer.  
 

Hence, my entry fee would get me... nada.

Might have been true in the past but the money now goes to subsidize the site and the winners will receive prizes. If you catch one good fish you could get a prize or you could win a trip without catching a fish.

Hence, my entry fee would get me... nada.

Might have been true in the past but the money now goes to subsidize the site and the winners will receive prizes. If you catch one good fish you could get a prize or you could win a trip without catching a fish.

After trading a few comments with Bill ealier this year I entered AOTY just to support the site, I'm not all that competitive and don't get to fish that often, so maybe a single species prize is in my grasp but I doubt it,  my entry fee made me feel like a contributor more than a competitor

dale

I think what most of us are getting at here, is not that we are pissed that people may steal spots.  Its that they don't share with us so that we can steal their spots.  Its the lack of give, and the abundance of take. 

I agree with you wholeheartedly here.  I was thinking about this last night on the ride home and decided that I'm going to take my own advice. 

Here's what i think the reasons for fishing report posts are:
1) To inform readers on where to catch fish
2) to share victories and/or defeats
3) to brag (boost)

I've been freaking out about what i perceive as a major hit to the bay halibut this season, I think we're decimating them in one year. This is of course, another topic- so park that one.

Given the last two points (on report posts, and the poor hallies).  I've decided i won't post reports anymore.  I'll read them, because I want to be informed, but no report posts for me.

Given the last two points (on report posts, and the poor hallies).  I've decided i won't post reports anymore.  I'll read them, because I want to be informed, but no report posts for me.

Steve you have now officially been registered as a lurker and if you fail to post a report in 60 days your registration will be deleted and your screen name will be changed to Guest. You will still have all privileges and able to access all information you just will not be known as SteveS so your boosting will be limited.

Here's what i think the reasons for fishing report posts are:
1) To inform readers on where to catch fish
2) to share victories and/or defeats
3) to brag (boost)

I've decided i won't post reports anymore.  I'll read them, because I want to be informed, but no report posts for me.

My priorities in reporting are different.  I'm heavy on number 2 and if I can help people figure out how to catch their own fsh then thats great but I'm not here to give anyone a free ride.  There's so many posts here about how much we value the commraderie, the adventurous nature of this sport is, just enjoying the experience of being on the water, feeling at one with the ocean, voluntarily slipping yourself into the food chain, challenging the ocean and coming out on top or getting your ass handed to you....where you went and what you caught should be the least important. Compa already pointed out that nothing is sacred, people will figure it out....that comes with experience and putting in the footwork.  I'm just asking that part of the footwork be actually participating and putting yourself out there like everyone else.      

I wouldn't worry about the halibut, they're probably the healthiest fishery we have in the ocean right now, other than sand-dabs and mackerel.  There are a lot of halibut between here and SLO that almost no-one fishes for.