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Topic: is your leader material the same line used for your pre-tied rigs?  (Read 2125 times)

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DarthBaiter

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apologies if my question above sucked.

I'm asking.  main line braid > Alberto--knot tied leader > then swivel (or whatever) tied dropper rig, or bounce-ball.. is your rig the same strength line?

thanks in advance.  putting together a game plan for next time.  my bass fishing (lighter lines stuff) mindset needs some recalibraiting for the salt.

I am moving up to 25lb mono.  call it version 3.0. :D


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I’m now using about 10’ to 20’ of 40 lb carbon to my swivel clip and the same for about 3’ to 4’ to my first hook (3/O-5/O) and then 30lb (easier to tie) to my second hook which may be single or treble. I use Palomar where I can and reluctantly an improved clinch where the palomar doesn’t work. But some of the more advanced fishers here may consider my rigging to be Googan.
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I just tie a swivel clip at the end of my main line whether it’s mono or braid. Pre-tied rigs with a barrel swivel on one end are just clipped on/taken off when needed. Simple and saves rigging time on the water. You can put a soft glow bead on the main line to protect the rod tip from the metal swivel clip in case you reel in too much and wack against the last eyelet.

If I’m using a slider for my weight, that goes on the main line, so I only do that with mono main line. Any time I’ve put a slider on braid, it didn’t go well.
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My main line is 80lb braid (Sufix 832), with a plastic 3-way/slider followed by a bead and a high-quality barrel swivel. Then for bounce-ball, a 50lb mono leader (at least 4') to the dodger, about 6-to-8 inches of 40lb mono to the sinker, and 30lb mono for the hoochie. The goal is to minimize the loss when snagged, and I think it works, as I'll occasionally lose a hoochie to a snag, but rarely lose a sinker, and almost never lose the dodger.

The sliders that I use don't seem to do any damage to the braid (Sufix 832 is especially slippery braid), but just to be safe, I do retie after about every 3rd trip. One nice thing about the slider is that if I want to fish bait, it's a super-fast change-over.
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Whatever you use, remember you may need to do break it off.
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25LB mono is my go to for almost all my rockfishing and halibut needs.  I like to use 30LB braid for main line and but a 6-7ft leader of 25lb Berkley BigGame mono with an alberto knot to a heavy duty snap swivel.  Then I use 25LB mono for rockfish/lings/halibut most of the time, and go up to 30lb florocarbon if i'm doing whole squid on a trap rig, or a large bait like mackeral. If using a 3-way I tie 12lb for the sinker so it will break off easy if snagged hard.
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Whatever you use, remember you may need to do break it off.

yup.  looking for Goldilocks (just right) level performance is a process.  hahah...

i am grateful, you all have made the journey easier with your collective experiences. 


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If not in your arsenal. This is a very easy sliding hook set up for halibut and live bait.

https://youtu.be/pFn4TC0IkQM?si=9Qo9uLkGsPMwLX0s
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I usually use 40lb braid for main line, with a large snap swivel tied direct to the braid. 

For trolling, I use a three way spreader, 16" or so of 15lb mono to my weight, and about 4' of 40lb mono to the hooks.  For jigging, I tie 4' 40lb mono direct to the swivel. Sometimes Hi-Lo rig with hooks in the middle and weight at the bottom, sometimes just a jig at the bottom.

I do this for a few reasons. 40lb mono always breaks before 40lb braid, usually at one of the knots. I only carry one type of line with me, 40lb mono. 40lb mono is flexible enough to make for easy rigging, but very abrasion resistant and durable. 40lb braid mainline is about all I would wager I can break from my kayak without flipping over, and I can fit a TON of it on pretty much all of my saltwater reels. I've had issues with FG or Albright or Alberto knots catching in the guides, so I stopped using these for saltwater. I don't think a long top shot leader makes any difference for rockfish and lings, especially if you are using a lighter rod. Keep it simple, haha.
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30lb braid to 30lb mono leader/topshot, then if I'm fishing bait a piece of 25lb flouro to a trap-type 2 hook tie. I like this for squid or herring bait. Simple and easy to repair OTW with a pre tied hook leader.
I use sliders a lot, similar to NWman's setup.
I will often use a lighter bit of mono from weight to slider, in case I need to break it.
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