Feedback on this rig idea?

Picked up some Gulp mackerel cheap, (Sportsmans Supply, 50% off, fyi)...

Was thinking of rigging them up with a size 2/0 live bait hook thru the head up above, with a foot long leader tied to a 3-way swivel ending with a 2 or 3oz jighead with large curlytail, (my tried and true usual rig) for the weight.

Think that'll fly?  Is there a name for this setup? 

I want to forsake the usual treble hook due to all the snags...  And a similar rig seems to work well for halibut in the bay, (using ball weights instead of a jig).

I'd opt for a standard dropper loop with curlytail rather than a swimbait.  The unweighted swimbait is gonna spiral around while drifting making for some nice line twist (3 ways aren't the greatest swivels).  Usually a jig at the bottom of a 3way is just to get an extra attractor/shot at a butt while live bait fishing.

Thanks, I was worried about twist.

art I think eric has those fake dead baits. they look like a 6" herring. (right?)

So how would you rig those?

I seem to always rig my doubled 30# braid mainline through a bead to protect the tip-top guide, a slido (with the little plastic T clipped off and filed down smooth) and tie a unit knot to a ball bearing cross-lock swivel now.

that allows me to bump troll with a threeway that does not twist, or clip on a leader to jig or a sinker release, whatever.

I would fish the gulp like I fish a whole dead squid or frozen herring, 2 hook rig on 3' 25# leader with a weight hanging off the slido with 20# line. actually you can tie most anything on as the bait lure  with this setup, I tried a spoon, a swimbait, a plug, a whole squid, a whole herring, a live smelt, you name it.

J

Yep, the dead fish ones.

Thanks for the tips.

Mainly I was looking for a way to fish the tried-and-true large curlytail jig (for lings) under the dead fishbait (for halibut).  I haven't seen anyone using such a rig and it seems like it would be perfect for BH since you don't have to switch rigs depending upon the bottom structure, (or lack therof).

Yep, the dead fish ones.

Thanks for the tips.

Mainly I was looking for a way to fish the tried-and-true large curlytail jig (for lings) under the dead fishbait (for halibut).  I haven't seen anyone using such a rig and it seems like it would be perfect for BH since you don't have to switch rigs depending upon the bottom structure, (or lack therof).

you can do that by simply tying a big hook like 7/0 to 10/0 into a dropper loop and hooking the gulp on that.

just a big teaser.

But I bet you will have to double the weight on your curly-tail to keep the whole thing on the bottom, 4 oz or more.

John

When I used the berkley gulp last weekend I rigged them like Mooch taught me how to rig frozen chovies.

1. Put the hook through the nose and pull it all the way through so that the gulp is now riding on your line.

2. Take the hook and place it in the back of the gulp. Make sure you leave enough hook exposed for a good hook set.

3. Pull the line to make it all nice and tight.

 

There's the dilemma...

How to combine the two above ideas?

Attach a swivel to drop loop, 12" leader, to hook/deadfish, 2-3" above a hairraiser or jig, maybe?

There's the dilemma...

How to combine the two above ideas?

Attach a swivel to drop loop, 12" leader, to hook/deadfish, 2-3" above a hairraiser or jig, maybe?

Bill, you could probably get more creative if you wanted and thread that line through any part of the
fish since it's solid and uniform material not like a frozen bait fish.

eric, you should just make it 6" of leader so it's like a giant dropshot to reduce tangles and I think you meant 2 or 3 feet not inches right?

but then yes,  a jig, but you'll need 4-12 oz to keep that thing down there. that's my take on it.

I might not be a great fisherman, but I've tried a lot of rigs in the last couple of years.

J

Well if that's the case I'll probably nix that idea, since I MUCH prefer to use 2-4oz weight, tops.

And yes, I meant 2-3 inches...  I read somewhere a halibut rig should have only a couple inches on the weight line, and 1-2 feet on the hook side.  Tom Sienstras book, (sp?) maybe?