Round Sting Ray?

Diving out of timber cove yesterday 7/18 saw a small ray about the size of my hand and black. Never seen one out here before has anyone else ran into these first time seeing one and I've been diving this spot for 12 years.

Skate?

I looked it up yeah it was a skate thanks for the info. It was pretty cool seeing it.

No problem.   I had a thread two weeks ago asking the same question.  Lol

execpt the skates ive seen aren't round

This is more round and packs a punch

Torpedo or Pacific Electric Ray

I've caught round stingrays (not skates) in Bodega Bay, so they are definitely around.

I caught a small round guitarfish in the surf a couple weeks back.  It looked like this.

-Allen

Small, black, round = torpedo ray
Polepole's is a thornback ray aka "throw-em-back ray"

Small, black, round = torpedo ray
Polepole's is a thornback ray aka "throw-em-back ray"

Hah.  I had thornback in my head, but typed round instead.  So technically, it's a Thornback Guitarfish (neither "round" nor a "ray").

-Allen

Hey i was always curious what this is I picked up. Ive always assumed it was a baby skate and didnt think much about it. But is it in fact a guitar fish?

That's a trick question haha...that looks like a baby thornback. Which is named thornback guitarfish like Polepole said, but it is actually a member of the ray family; not a guitarfish. The attached pic is a guitarfish.

Btw torpedo rays do not taste good... 
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=43219.msg475547#msg475547

Haha, didn't know they were agressive. I've caught in full size one too at bolinas but only one in many times. My friends tried eating a leopard shark not recommended either I hear...