California Creekin website

There used to abe a great site called california creekin but I can't find it anymore. It was a very cool resource. These guys charged almost every creek/stream/river in CA. And they had great pics and notes about each run. I stumbled upon it years ago while researching the Carmel River.
Anybody know what happened to it? Where'd it go?
Thanks,
PK

Sounds like a cool site, Pat.  I can speculate that they may have ducked under cover if they were treading on questionable ground regarding areas they were accessing.  For instance, I know that going in and around spawning creeks is illegal, and that's why I'm extremely careful about where I go and what I do when I go creekin'.  Careless or uninformed people can do lots of damage to creeks and streams.

I know that they changed domain names a while back, so my bookmarks didn't work at one time. But the site never actually went away:

http://www.cacreeks.com/

Regards,
Scott

www.cacreeks.com and www.dreamflows.com are the most important websites to California whitewater boaters.     dreamflows.com gives you instantaneous readings of flow levels of most streams in ca.

Judd

Thanks Scott and Judd!
Thats the one! My bookmarks didn't work and every time I tried to search for California creekin, I'd come up with a bunch of crappy results.

And yes, uninformed people can do a lot of damage to watersheds. Some of their accounts are borderline irresponsible...because they make it seem so easy to run such difficult (or illegal) creeks. They've got a couple of runs listed that would not be advisable except for the extremely advanced paddler (or somebody who didn't care about breaking the law)...see Arroyo Hondo for example....dangerous AND illegal.

Thanks guys!
PK

I've spent years cataloging and repairing salmonid creeks along the Eel river watershed. We go in with heavy equipment like dozers and full on excavators. It's looks like an atom bomb went off during the process of repair but years later I can hike back to those projects I've worked on and see the benefits of new growth, willow mattreses that have taken off and of course Salmonid where there were none for years. Just me and the five man crew I worked on had a major impact in the entire Salmon Creek watershed. Creeks are more maleable and easier to repair than rivers. I wouldn't attribute a lick of environmental damage to WW boaters, that's almost ridiculous. They are the most conscious people I know and have done more to preserve access and fight for our rivers than any other special interest group out there.
I'm in no way advocating trespassing or mucking with spawning streams. I've always been a part of the solution but running steep creeks is not going away anytime soon and I promote it as part of my business. Believe me You'd rather have a guy like me out working in creeks for fun and restoration than leaving it be to the imagination of developers and energy companies

Hey youse guys......no kayak running any whitewater/(brownwater-in-coastal and-winter-rain-flows) stream.....ever "harmed" any fish environment.

And if we think it's runnable....and if we run it....it is both runnable and "navigable."

And if, as sometimes happens, we die running it, that's strictly our business.

And if some tight-ass property owners take umbrage that in running it we somehow violate their sensibilities and air-space....it is only a sad comment on their personal and futile small possessive selfish cloistered madness.

And if by Aroyo Hondo...you mean that navigable stream that runs alongside the Old Mines Road outside of Livermore....I happen to be the first guy ever to run the lower canyon portion, solo, at about 700-900 cfs, including the 24-foot waterfall AND all the fences that the ranchers stretch across the water (some you can run, and some you have to see beforehand and portage).....and do not speak to me about "illegal...???...!!!....".......and do not allege that in traversing that stretch of creek-bottom I somehow squashed a fish...!!!...

Judd

And if we think it's runnable....and if we run it....it is both runnable and "navigable."

And if, as sometimes happens, we die running it, that's strictly our business.
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DAMN SKIPPY

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Gee, Thanks for the info.
Respectfully,
PK