Hali bounce ball weight

Those of you who have used dodgers or flashers with this setup have you noticed a difference in effectiveness? Thinking of running something similar as OP but didn't account for the extra drag created and needing to up the weight of the sinker. (Like to the hold the rod the whole time)

Great thread, as I'm struggling to find the right balance with weight, rod, and setback.  I've been using a X8 lamiglass with 8-10oz and a 3-way rig to a Luregenson herring dodger.  This weekend it felt great trolling bottom in 80-60fow with a long set back, got the nice tick tick tick of the ball bounce on occasion and never got tangled.  But my setback was very far, and when I did snag, I lost everything.  Thinking of trying something stiffer, heavier, and less of a set back next time.

Great thread, as I'm struggling to find the right balance with weight, rod, and setback.  I've been using a X8 lamiglass with 8-10oz and a 3-way rig to a Luregenson herring dodger.  This weekend it felt great trolling bottom in 80-60fow with a long set back, got the nice tick tick tick of the ball bounce on occasion and never got tangled.  But my setback was very far, and when I did snag, I lost everything.  Thinking of trying something stiffer, heavier, and less of a set back next time.

if you fish weekdays and wanna swing by and grab my setup and some heavier leads to give a try let me know. im on your way to the peninsula spots from boulder creek

Great thread, as I'm struggling to find the right balance with weight, rod, and setback.  I've been using a X8 lamiglass with 8-10oz and a 3-way rig to a Luregenson herring dodger.  This weekend it felt great trolling bottom in 80-60fow with a long set back, got the nice tick tick tick of the ball bounce on occasion and never got tangled.  But my setback was very far, and when I did snag, I lost everything.  Thinking of trying something stiffer, heavier, and less of a set back next time.

Sorry for the newb question but what does setback mean in this context? Is it how far the rig ends up dragging behind you?

How far you pay out your line when trolling.  Makes a bit more sense in terms of a downrigger, but basically same idea

Thanks!

Great thread, as I'm struggling to find the right balance with weight, rod, and setback.  I've been using a X8 lamiglass with 8-10oz and a 3-way rig to a Luregenson herring dodger.  This weekend it felt great trolling bottom in 80-60fow with a long set back, got the nice tick tick tick of the ball bounce on occasion and never got tangled.  But my setback was very far, and when I did snag, I lost everything.  Thinking of trying something stiffer, heavier, and less of a set back next time.

if you fish weekdays and wanna swing by and grab my setup and some heavier leads to give a try let me know. im on your way to the peninsula spots from boulder creek

Thanks man, that's a kind offer and may take you up on that!

I've always had great results with a setup I learned from a former comm/current charter boat capt-60 lb mono and 16 oz leads up to 30 ft deep. I don't usually fish any deeper than that for halibut. The stiff, heavy line eliminates with dodgers. I think constant bouncing, near vertical lines and dropper height are very important. I always attach my dropper to a slider as well

Great thread. And I second vertical lines and occasional bouncing (as opposed to dragging). Just wanted to add that if you experiment with weights and setups, remember that the biggest success factor is to be where there is fish, when they’re active, and have the right action. The rest can vary, which is why everyone has their own way…

One more thing to keep in mind is that it's a good idea to use barbless hooks, as it is definitely possible to catch salmon on a bounce-ball rig.

ive caught more salmon on sabikis than on hali rigs but i suppose anything is possible!

I have seen quite a few Halibut caught on sabiki's when using a swimbait for the weight 

I’m switching to a lighter rod and am going to mess with different weight setups. My big concern with using too much weight is not seeing or feeling the Hali’s hitting.

I’m switching to a lighter rod and am going to mess with different weight setups. My big concern with using too much weight is not seeing or feeling the Hali’s hitting.

If you're free this Friday, then join me on the water.  I can let you try one of my three lightweight setups that I use with 3-8oz torpedo weights.

I’m switching to a lighter rod and am going to mess with different weight setups. My big concern with using too much weight is not seeing or feeling the Hali’s hitting.

The thing to consider is that a bigger weight will load a rod more, and it takes less to make it "wiggle" in that loaded state. here's a vid of a strike on my 15-40# rod with a 19oz weight. fish ended up being 20 inches.
https://imgur.com/h12zuMT