A bit disappointed

I have enough common sense to know that protecting our only planet is a good idea.

Yes, but spending trillions of dollars on things that will have no measurable impact is just plain stupid.

Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!

I have enough common sense to know that protecting our only planet is a good idea.

Yes, but spending trillions of dollars on things that will have no measurable impact is just plain stupid.

Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!

Spending trillions of dollars to delay the date the earth self combusts by 6 days, while China builds a new coal power plant every week is stupid. An agreement that kills our economy while China and India ramp up their CO2 production is stupid. Telling everyone we must “believe” because they have adjusted the data to firmly agree with the propaganda is stupid. Listening to people telling us to “believe” while they continue to fly on their private jet is stupid.

Listen to what this former Greanpeace environmentalist says.

...are you too old and senile.  You should be pissed off at your self for being so dumb and being "brain washed" by the oil and coal industry.

Damn, how is this even still a debate, especially in the fishing community!

It's still a debate because Global Warming is not sound science. 
1. It is not elegant
2. It contains several arbitrary, adjustable elements
3. It neither agrees with or explains all existing observations
4. It fails to make detailed predictions about future observations that could disprove Global Warming if the current predictions are not borne out

I spent a large part of my working career as a Hydrographer. 
I specifically worked developing models for the measurement and description of the physical features of oceans, seas, coastal areas, lakes and rivers, as well as with the prediction of their change over time.

Science isn't about passion, which, unfortunately, is exactly what young people are being brain washed into thinking is truth.  It is about the intellectual and practical study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
I'd enjoy discussing model-dependent realism with anyone familiar with the concept.
Model-dependent realism is a view of scientific inquiry that focuses on the role of scientific models of phenomena. 
Many scientists do assume that the physical models which they work with represent the actual underlying physical reality of how nature operates. The problem, of course, is that scientists of the past have also believed this about their own theories and in almost every case their models have been shown by later research to have been incomplete.

But hey!  I'm just old, senile, dumb AND brain washed so don't take my word for it.  Steven Hawking can better explain model dependent realism in his book 'The Grand Design'. 

    Model-dependent realism is based on the idea that our brains interpret the input from our sensory organs by making a model of the world. When such a model is successful at explaining events, we tend to attribute to it, and to the elements and concepts that constitute it, the quality of reality or absolute truth.
According to model-dependent realism, it is pointless to ask whether a model is real, only whether it agrees with observation. If there are two models that both agree with observation ... then one cannot say that one is more real than another. One can use whichever model is more convenient in the situation under consideration.

Like any religion,  all that is required is faith.

3 pages in with 22 to go. 

Alas, it's springtime weather and the birdies are singing.  Peoples minds have waning surliness and are turning to possibilities of catching fish.

You may have seen the bumper sticker: Al Gore said it, I believe it and that settles it.

Pretty sure the sun causes global warming.

So true Crash. It's the suns fault. It cools, we cool, it gets going we get hotter. Its that conservation of energy thingy!

Listen to what this former Greanpeace environmentalist says.

That man is quoting the IPCC from 2007. That document has been revised in 2014 showing even stronger evidence for human-caused global warming. I'd rather trust this document that has been put together by a panel of international experts.

I'm just curious, who benefits from global warming being a hoax? It seems to me that the fossil fuel industry has a lot more to lose than renewables do.

Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate  comments, and calling each other names.  What's  happend to this site?

If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend...

And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter...   

You guys must be rubbing off on me.   

Or maybe it was the dirty martinis.....   

 

Sincerely,

Jim

You can't power the world with renewables. Nuclear energy would be the only possible replacement at this time. I don't think it's a hoax. A lot of different groups benefit from pushing the idea of man caused global warming or the updated climate change.  Those experts you're trusting, are they as smart as all the experts that said Saddam  had weapons of mass destruction?

Let’s not forget the new ice age promised to us back when I was in high school all the best minds knew it was coming

Let’s go ice fishing at half moon bay
Ya they go that weather thing down

But some how can’t do a five day forecast

Winter is mostly gone and there has yet to be a good 25+ page post with members getting irate, making inappropriate  comments, and calling each other names.  What's  happend to this site?

If it makes you feel any better I called someone a hypocrite and shitty on another site over the weekend...

And I've even been killing a fair amount of fish this winter...   

You guys must be rubbing off on me.   

Or maybe it was the dirty martinis.....   

 

Sincerely,

Jim

We DO NOT want to hear about other guys “rubbing off” on you Jim... I repeat we DO NOT!