BREAKING: Officials warn of collapse of emergency spillway at Oroville

Oroville Dam: Feds and state officials ignored warnings 12 years ago

Oh, but the Train to nowhere gets all the $.....  When will this ABSURDITY end!

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/oroville-dam-feds-and-state-officials-ignored-warnings-12-years-ago/

No federal funding if sanctuary cities continue.

Cal Fire is sending strike teams to assist if it fails. Next week will be another big test.

It was engineered. It's perfect, right?

It was engineered. It's perfect, right?

It was built by the lowest bidder. What could possibly go wrong?

Monday Quarterback; but, how the hell can they have an emergency spillway with ZERO erosion protection?????
That entire area should have been concreted.
Was the main spillway just dirt....initially?
It absolutely floors me how paid engineers cannot use common sense.

This is not the main spillway, which is concrete. This is the emergency spillway.

I know that. My point was that they cemented the main spillway because it would erode if they didn't. It's not like it was dirt and then someone said, "Oh shit, the dirt is eroding. We'd better concrete it", which is pretty much what happened with the emergency spillway.

Monday Quarterback; but, how the hell can they have an emergency spillway with ZERO erosion protection?????
That entire area should have been concreted.
Was the main spillway just dirt....initially?
It absolutely floors me how paid engineers cannot use common sense.

This is not the main spillway, which is concrete. This is the emergency spillway.

I know that. My point was that they cemented the main spillway because it would erode if they didn't. It's not like it was dirt and then someone said, "Oh shit, the dirt is eroding. We'd better concrete it", which is pretty much what happened with the emergency spillway.

Even the main spillway is crumbling. Gotta get that high speed rail project and water tunnels going for Jerry Brown's legacy. 

It was engineered. It's perfect, right?

It was built by the lowest bidder. What could possibly go wrong?

I'm sure the lack of concrete wasn't related to the low bid. Probably some political appointee said "when will we ever need to use an emergency spill way? Dirt will be fine"

Man is this gonna be costly !!

Man is this gonna be costly !!

Only $200M or so...

https://www.benzinga.com/news/17/02/9036306/how-much-could-it-cost-to-fix-oroville-dam

Very easy fix for both spillways. Materials and getting the materials there is the challenge.
I proposed portable conveyors to place rock. Shotcrete topcoat, drill soil nails/anchors, cap with layer of concrete. Injection grout the main spillway to seal and purge voids. Done.

Very easy fix for both spillways. Materials and getting the materials there is the challenge.
I proposed portable conveyors to place rock. Shotcrete topcoat, drill soil nails/anchors, cap with layer of concrete. Injection grout the main spillway to seal and purge voids. Done.

Oh HELL NO!

When are you gonna get it through your THICK head, there's at LEAST $200 Million to spend on this.  Your plan falls woefully short of that budget.  With a little imagination, I'm sure $300 million could be wrangled out of this.  Most of it going to fight the same federal government that would supply the bulk of the dollars with the hiring of Eric Holder.  Threatening to tie up in court every policy the white house administration proposes that might affect this state.

California has taken every measure possible to be adversarial to Trump, including talk of succeeding from the Union.  Now it comes a groveling for emergency funds.  Personally, if I were Trump, I'd start building that wall right along the California border starting with Arizona and work my way North to Canada. 

Very easy fix for both spillways. Materials and getting the materials there is the challenge.
I proposed portable conveyors to place rock. Shotcrete topcoat, drill soil nails/anchors, cap with layer of concrete. Injection grout the main spillway to seal and purge voids. Done.

Oh HELL NO!

When are you gonna get it through your THICK head, there's at LEAST $200 Million to spend on this.  Your plan falls woefully short of that budget.  With a little imagination, I'm sure $300 million could be wrangled out of this.  Most of it going to fight the same federal government that would supply the bulk of the dollars with the hiring of Eric Holder.  Threatening to tie up in court every policy he has that might affect this state.

California has taken every measure possible to be adversarial to Trump, including talk of succeeding from the Union.  Now it comes a groveling for emergency funds.  Personally, if I were Trump, I'd start building that wall right along the California border starting with Arizona and work my way North to Canada. 

Jefferson tho

If Jefferson was realized, it would be the richest state in the nation with what it would charge for it's water to be transported out of state. 

Very easy fix for both spillways. Materials and getting the materials there is the challenge.
I proposed portable conveyors to place rock. Shotcrete topcoat, drill soil nails/anchors, cap with layer of concrete. Injection grout the main spillway to seal and purge voids. Done.

Oh HELL NO!

When are you gonna get it through your THICK head, there's at LEAST $200 Million to spend on this.  Your plan falls woefully short of that budget.  With a little imagination, I'm sure $300 million could be wrangled out of this.  Most of it going to fight the same federal government that would supply the bulk of the dollars with the hiring of Eric Holder.  Threatening to tie up in court every policy the white house administration proposes that might affect this state.

California has taken every measure possible to be adversarial to Trump, including talk of succeeding from the Union.  Now it comes a groveling for emergency funds.  Personally, if I were Trump, I'd start building that wall right along the California border starting with Arizona and work my way North to Canada.

Polepole has a head start on that wall!