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Topic: 2017-18 Groundfish Regs delayed  (Read 1265 times)

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SuperVato

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From CDFW Marine Management News today 2/2/2017
  my apologies if this has been posted elsewhere.

On Jan. 20, 2017, White House staff on behalf of President Trump implemented a regulatory freeze to ensure that the President’s appointees or designees have the opportunity to review any new or pending federal regulations. This freeze includes the pending 2017 and 2018 commercial and recreational groundfish regulations. Until the federal freeze is lifted, 2016 regulations remain in effect for commercial and recreational groundfish fisheries.
For current groundfish regulations, please call the Recreational Groundfish Hotline at (831) 649-2801 or check the CDFW Groundfish website. The hotline and websites will be updated once the new regulations go into effect. CDFW will also issue a press release announcing the new regulations. To receive the press release by email, sign up for CDFW News or the Marine Region News Service (ocean-related news only).

Note that the 2017-2018 Saltwater Sport Fishing regulations booklet will not contain groundfish regulations. Updated recreational groundfish regulations will be printed in the annual Sport Fishing Regulations Supplement, which is usually available around May each year.
“All men are equal before fish.”
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crash

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There's like 3 posts in CA regs forum but this is probably a better place to talk about it.

Has anybody explained why California can't implement the regs?  I haven't seen it.  The federal regs were approved in the fall and are already in effect in Oregon.  California can derogate from the federal regs anyway, just like the state of Oregon did with salmon and gillnets in the Columbia (which is an ongoing shitshow if anyone is interested in that, Gov. Brown screwed Oregon rec fishermen over hard on that one).  It really seems like a manufactured political problem so CA can blame something on an administration that it doesn't like.
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crash

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I looked at this a little closer tonight.

Here is the memo:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/20/memorandum-heads-executive-departments-and-agencies

I don't see how the California regs apply.  Amendment 27 was approved in the fall, published in the federal register in October, and the letter from the secretary approving Amendment 27 after the required publication period was signed at the end of December to take effect January 1.

NOAA's webpage has been silent since the inauguration and it looks like the entire agency is holdover.  Given the animosity between the administration on the one hand and the scientific community and government of the state of California on the other, this smells like a bunch of BS political nonsense.

The memo does say that the postponement is for 60 days, which would run before April 1, so even if this crap isn't sorted out in the mean time, it should not impact our season.  Unless the State of California wants it to in order to use fishermen as pawns in a pissing match with the President.  We should be mad at California if that happens tho, not Trump.
"SCIENCE SUCKS" - bmb


piscellaneous

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I looked at this a little closer tonight.

Here is the memo:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/20/memorandum-heads-executive-departments-and-agencies

I don't see how the California regs apply.  Amendment 27 was approved in the fall, published in the federal register in October, and the letter from the secretary approving Amendment 27 after the required publication period was signed at the end of December to take effect January 1.

NOAA's webpage has been silent since the inauguration and it looks like the entire agency is holdover.  Given the animosity between the administration on the one hand and the scientific community and government of the state of California on the other, this smells like a bunch of BS political nonsense.

The memo does say that the postponement is for 60 days, which would run before April 1, so even if this crap isn't sorted out in the mean time, it should not impact our season.  Unless the State of California wants it to in order to use fishermen as pawns in a pissing match with the President.  We should be mad at California if that happens tho, not Trump.

LOL I don't think this will be the central issue over any fight between California and Trump. Bigger fish to fry. They didn't retain Eric Holder to sue over recreational fishing regs. There will be plenty of low-hanging fruit. It's only been two weeks and he's already threatened to defund the University of California after some anarchists rioted on Campus and they had to shut down an event.   He's also threatened to withhold federal funds if local law enforcement agencies aren't turned into de facto federal immigration enforcement.
Don't expect too much of a fight on their end either. They have placed a gag order and hiring freeze on all of the regulatory agencies and their goal appears to be to take the teeth out of them.
This won't affect our recreational fishing season.
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crash

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I looked at this a little closer tonight.

Here is the memo:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/20/memorandum-heads-executive-departments-and-agencies

I don't see how the California regs apply.  Amendment 27 was approved in the fall, published in the federal register in October, and the letter from the secretary approving Amendment 27 after the required publication period was signed at the end of December to take effect January 1.

NOAA's webpage has been silent since the inauguration and it looks like the entire agency is holdover.  Given the animosity between the administration on the one hand and the scientific community and government of the state of California on the other, this smells like a bunch of BS political nonsense.

The memo does say that the postponement is for 60 days, which would run before April 1, so even if this crap isn't sorted out in the mean time, it should not impact our season.  Unless the State of California wants it to in order to use fishermen as pawns in a pissing match with the President.  We should be mad at California if that happens tho, not Trump.

LOL I don't think this will be the central issue over any fight between California and Trump. Bigger fish to fry. They didn't retain Eric Holder to sue over recreational fishing regs. There will be plenty of low-hanging fruit. It's only been two weeks and he's already threatened to defund the University of California after some anarchists rioted on Campus and they had to shut down an event.   He's also threatened to withhold federal funds if local law enforcement agencies aren't turned into de facto federal immigration enforcement.
Don't expect too much of a fight on their end either. They have placed a gag order and hiring freeze on all of the regulatory agencies and their goal appears to be to take the teeth out of them.
This won't affect our recreational fishing season.
The

Of course its not a central issue.  I think you read far too much into what I wrote.  I don't think it will affect our season either, but if it does you know who to blame.

Petty political fighting is petty, and it doesn't really matter to the politicians who is hurt.  Remember the federal government shutdown a couple years back?  That was an example of a manufactured problem designed to make people inconvenienced in an attempt to gain political capital.  This is no different, and I'm not picking sides.  They are all petty.
"SCIENCE SUCKS" - bmb


piscellaneous

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I looked at this a little closer tonight.

Here is the memo:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/20/memorandum-heads-executive-departments-and-agencies

I don't see how the California regs apply.  Amendment 27 was approved in the fall, published in the federal register in October, and the letter from the secretary approving Amendment 27 after the required publication period was signed at the end of December to take effect January 1.

NOAA's webpage has been silent since the inauguration and it looks like the entire agency is holdover.  Given the animosity between the administration on the one hand and the scientific community and government of the state of California on the other, this smells like a bunch of BS political nonsense.

The memo does say that the postponement is for 60 days, which would run before April 1, so even if this crap isn't sorted out in the mean time, it should not impact our season.  Unless the State of California wants it to in order to use fishermen as pawns in a pissing match with the President.  We should be mad at California if that happens tho, not Trump.

LOL I don't think this will be the central issue over any fight between California and Trump. Bigger fish to fry. They didn't retain Eric Holder to sue over recreational fishing regs. There will be plenty of low-hanging fruit. It's only been two weeks and he's already threatened to defund the University of California after some anarchists rioted on Campus and they had to shut down an event.   He's also threatened to withhold federal funds if local law enforcement agencies aren't turned into de facto federal immigration enforcement.
Don't expect too much of a fight on their end either. They have placed a gag order and hiring freeze on all of the regulatory agencies and their goal appears to be to take the teeth out of them.
This won't affect our recreational fishing season.
The

Of course its not a central issue.  I think you read far too much into what I wrote.  I don't think it will affect our season either, but if it does you know who to blame.

Petty political fighting is petty, and it doesn't really matter to the politicians who is hurt.  Remember the federal government shutdown a couple years back?  That was an example of a manufactured problem designed to make people inconvenienced in an attempt to gain political capital.  This is no different, and I'm not picking sides.  They are all petty.
You are right. I'm hoping our institutions hold up, extremely flawed as they may be. And certainly hope CA doesn't take the bait and get into a fight that doesn't do us any good. Hopefully moves like hiring Holder were just for a "worst case scenario."
Mark C.
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Yellow O.K. Malibu 2XL Angler