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Topic: Home Defense - what do you use?  (Read 10741 times)

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lightfoot

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Those are burglary statistics, not home invasions. The vast majority of burglaries occur when nobody is home and few result in violent crime.

Other interesting reading.  This is for 2011, I didn't see 2015 data.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm

*An estimated 3.7 million burglaries occurred each year on
average from 2003 to 2007.

*A household member was present in roughly 1 million burglaries
and became victims of violent crimes in 266,560 burglaries.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2016, 06:49:44 PM by lightfoot »
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If science is behind an academic paywall, is it even sciencey at all?

Bring on the anecdotes!

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The funny thing about statistics is they don't ask everyone so the evidence in my opinion is only partial fact.

 :smt005  That's awesome.
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I'm sure we all interpret things differently don't we? And scientifically many scientists disagree on the same fact. Usually to there own benefit, I know gun right activist will see the same statistics and have an interpretation of said figures that is 100% opposite of gun control activists, its all in how they interpret the partial numbers collected.


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wow-well there you have it....a pit bull is only as  smart as its owner
We certainly seem more passionate about firearms than, say dead bolts, home security systems, situational awareness, physical fitness, or other aspects of home security.
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.

People aren’t supposed to look back. I’m certainly not going to do it anymore.”
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I mean we give everyone car keys and they dont go and kill and maim each other--why not rocket launchers
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.

People aren’t supposed to look back. I’m certainly not going to do it anymore.”
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Even if someone does fantasize about saving his family by killing a home intruder with a gun;what is so wrong about that? Seems like a lot of people fantasize about a lot of different things in life. Why is that so bad? Maybe people should mind their own business and not be judging others so much. Don't fuck with my fantasy bro. Its none of your god-damned business.


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Even if someone does fantasize about saving his family by killing a home intruder with a gun;what is so wrong about that? Seems like a lot of people fantasize about a lot of different things in life. Why is that so bad? Maybe people should mind their own business and not be judging others so much. Don't fuck with my fantasy bro. Its none of your god-damned business.

With that kind of attitude, the Agents of Goldstein have already won.

**Buries his head in a tattered black copy, amateurishly bound, of the Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism**

Assemble the quotes from Benjamin Disraeli (or is it Mark Twain?  I forget if history is revisionary yet, someone wake me), we've been down this rabbit hole before.
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It isnt anyone's fucking business, unless you are the one not knocking  :smt044
Other states I may or may not have a M203 under an M4 for my protection.
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If you want to worry about other peoples fantasies, you should would worry about the guy who fantasizes about breaking into your house and doing bad things to your family.


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I live in a small place and home invasion is probable (S.J.) my first line of defense is with a can of BEAR SPRAY, 911 and if both fails the 12 gauge. Then deal with it latter :smt001. I really don't want to hurt or kill anybody but if necessary.... :smt067


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Even if someone does fantasize about saving his family by killing a home intruder with a gun;what is so wrong about that? Seems like a lot of people fantasize about a lot of different things in life. Why is that so bad? Maybe people should mind their own business and not be judging others so much. Don't fuck with my fantasy bro. Its none of your god-damned business.

+1 It's always easy to say or think how others should act, think, what they say, or even how they vote. This is a free country, at least it still is. Nobody knows what othershe email been or livedtjrough; family members violently raped, house burglary; both hole at home sleeping and while away from the house, or just witnessed some of these horrible actions.My whole family is armed and know how to use each of the weapons. Of course none of us hope to ever need them.
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M203 under an M4

my personal fav - really shakes shit up :smt001

That's a lot of money to waste on a tweeker or two trying to steal your shit.  Must be nice to be as rich as you guys.  If you ever want to light money on fire like this, just give it to me, I'll take care of it for you.
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M203 under an M4

my personal fav - really shakes shit up :smt001

That's a lot of money to waste on a tweeker or two trying to steal your shit.  Must be nice to be as rich as you guys.  If you ever want to light money on fire like this, just give it to me, I'll take care of it for you.

haha, i aint got the scratch or the ffl to own those devices now(in civilian life) - but when I was shooting them and blowing shit up at taxpayers expense it was affordable.
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I mean we give everyone car keys and they dont go and kill and maim each other--why not rocket launchers
Well now that's a great analogy unless you have lost a family member to a drunk driver.... then it's not even funny.... and should the car manufacturers be sued after all if the gun did the killing then the car certainly did as well? RIIIIGHT?! Crime is crime, illegal is illegal, wrong is wrong if the punishment FIT the crime every time then criminals wouldn't want to sit in the country clubs we call jails... hell they live better then a lot of people.


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