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Tote

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I just paid $2.32 a gallon for gas last night.........let's see what happens from here.  :smt011
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I just paid $2.32 a gallon for gas last night.........let's see what happens from here.  :smt011
How big is the mountain monster Rv's tank.  I hope gas prices stay lower its been nice. 
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The right person won this election.  Hillary truly believed she was owed this and I don't care who it would have been, this is a position we, the people elect, not what someone thinks they were owed.

Besides, I'm an old white dude.  Paying over half my money to a bunch of ideologies I find completely offensive gets me both grumpy and angry. 



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I just paid $2.32 a gallon for gas last night.........let's see what happens from here.  :smt011

The highest state in the union, besides Hawaii.  You're happy with that? Several states today are paying around $1.80.  Most are $2 and under.  I'm PISSED to have to pay that much!! 


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I'm sure glad people voted 3rd party in 1860.



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Happy Veterans Day and thank you for your service...

now go here: http://www.veteranstoday.com/
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Happy Veterans Day and thank you for your service...

now go here: http://www.veteranstoday.com/

+1

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Happy Veterans Day and thank you for your service...

now go here: http://www.veteranstoday.com/

+1

Thank you for your service!
   Yep to this. ^^^^^


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I just paid $2.32 a gallon for gas last night.........let's see what happens from here.  :smt011

The highest state in the union, besides Hawaii.  You're happy with that? Several states today are paying around $1.80.  Most are $2 and under.  I'm PISSED to have to pay that much!!
      I wish I could find it for only 2.32     1.60 - 1.80 here.......     Thanks to the CARB for that.   Every other state in the union uses the Fed guidelines, but our great state of CA has become controlled by special interests groups that want to keep selling those additives.  The additives which are supposed to reduce pollution just not needed any longer. Those were implemented long before the high efficiency cars of today.
     
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This thread/topic is like an angler fish, once you get a look of that little flicker bait on his forehead you want to get closer for a look...sure enough after a few more posts, my fingers took control, so here I am...

It was enlightening to read the different perspectives on why one voted for Trump.  This election was not about politics as it was talked about very little. 

For me, it was very simple.  I have kids.  I try to instill in them values and principles that will help them eventually be persons of substance and good character.  To reach that goal we tell them the consequence of choices in actions and words.  When given the opportunity, like when a "famous" person on TV says or does something, we discuss that persons actions and words.  Is that the right thing to do or say?  Does that hurt someone?  Does it help anyone? 

Recently in the media we have been exposed to a lot of instances of bullying and how to stand up to bullying.  Kids go to workshops and have special school programs to discuss this topic.  Based on all they've heard from mom, dad, school, and anywhere else.

Given what Trump has said and allegedly done, how could I explain to my kids that Trump should be president? 

Now to a lesser extent:
When you apply for a job, your employment history is verified.  References are checked.  Six bankruptcies?  Really?  Would you hire or go into a partnership with someone who has filed six bankruptcies in any industry?  Or in his case across multiple industries?  How about what his ex-employees, partners, contractors had to say about his business ethics?  Even if you found some that gave him praise, wouldn't the non flattering references give you serious pause? 

Fortune estimated his net worth to be about $4B, but if he had just invested his inheritance in the S&P 500, his net worth would be closer to $13B.  I don't know if that strategy would hold true for everyone or just someone who came into a centi-million dollar inheritance. 

Lastly, Russia, are they friend or foe?  I'd categorize them as foe.

When it was announced that Trump had won the election, the Russian parliament cheered, clapped, and other wise celebrated.  Why do you think they're celebrating?  Do you think it's really because he respects Putin and relations going forward are going to be more constructive? 

Here's my analogy of their celebration.  I use to fence and in competition when my opponent is drawn and I learn he is a person that I've seen perform and know is no match for me.  I quietly let out a cheer and get high fives and smiles from my teammates.   





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This thread/topic is like an angler fish, once you get a look of that little flicker bait on his forehead you want to get closer for a look...sure enough after a few more posts, my fingers took control, so here I am...

It was enlightening to read the different perspectives on why one voted for Trump.  This election was not about politics as it was talked about very little. 

For me, it was very simple.  I have kids.  I try to instill in them values and principles that will help them eventually be persons of substance and good character.  To reach that goal we tell them the consequence of choices in actions and words.  When given the opportunity, like when a "famous" person on TV says or does something, we discuss that persons actions and words.  Is that the right thing to do or say?  Does that hurt someone?  Does it help anyone? 

Recently in the media we have been exposed to a lot of instances of bullying and how to stand up to bullying.  Kids go to workshops and have special school programs to discuss this topic.  Based on all they've heard from mom, dad, school, and anywhere else.

Given what Trump has said and allegedly done, how could I explain to my kids that Trump should be president? 

Now to a lesser extent:
When you apply for a job, your employment history is verified.  References are checked.  Six bankruptcies?  Really?  Would you hire or go into a partnership with someone who has filed six bankruptcies in any industry?  Or in his case across multiple industries?  How about what his ex-employees, partners, contractors had to say about his business ethics?  Even if you found some that gave him praise, wouldn't the non flattering references give you serious pause? 

Fortune estimated his net worth to be about $4B, but if he had just invested his inheritance in the S&P 500, his net worth would be closer to $13B.  I don't know if that strategy would hold true for everyone or just someone who came into a centi-million dollar inheritance. 

Lastly, Russia, are they friend or foe?  I'd categorize them as foe.

When it was announced that Trump had won the election, the Russian parliament cheered, clapped, and other wise celebrated.  Why do you think they're celebrating?  Do you think it's really because he respects Putin and relations going forward are going to be more constructive? 

Here's my analogy of their celebration.  I use to fence and in competition when my opponent is drawn and I learn he is a person that I've seen perform and know is no match for me.  I quietly let out a cheer and get high fives and smiles from my teammates.

Can you hold this same standard to Hillary also? Given what she has said and allegedly done; can you tell your kids she should be president? Would you hire Hillary to work at your company given that she misappropriated foundation money for her daughters education and wedding? Lied to the American people multiple times to cover up her crime or dereliction of duty (depending on what you believe she actually did)?


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Why do you guys keep replying to this topic and "shedding more light to it" if you supposedly don't want anything to do with it?  :dontknow:

NOTHING posted in this thread so far has crossed any lines. I see people asking questions and looking for other people's point of view in a civilized manner.

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So a guy walks into a bar...........................
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spinal tap

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This thread/topic is like an angler fish, once you get a look of that little flicker bait on his forehead you want to get closer for a look...sure enough after a few more posts, my fingers took control, so here I am...

It was enlightening to read the different perspectives on why one voted for Trump.  This election was not about politics as it was talked about very little. 

For me, it was very simple.  I have kids.  I try to instill in them values and principles that will help them eventually be persons of substance and good character.  To reach that goal we tell them the consequence of choices in actions and words.  When given the opportunity, like when a "famous" person on TV says or does something, we discuss that persons actions and words.  Is that the right thing to do or say?  Does that hurt someone?  Does it help anyone? 

Recently in the media we have been exposed to a lot of instances of bullying and how to stand up to bullying.  Kids go to workshops and have special school programs to discuss this topic.  Based on all they've heard from mom, dad, school, and anywhere else.

Given what Trump has said and allegedly done, how could I explain to my kids that Trump should be president? 

Now to a lesser extent:
When you apply for a job, your employment history is verified.  References are checked.  Six bankruptcies?  Really?  Would you hire or go into a partnership with someone who has filed six bankruptcies in any industry?  Or in his case across multiple industries?  How about what his ex-employees, partners, contractors had to say about his business ethics?  Even if you found some that gave him praise, wouldn't the non flattering references give you serious pause? 

Fortune estimated his net worth to be about $4B, but if he had just invested his inheritance in the S&P 500, his net worth would be closer to $13B.  I don't know if that strategy would hold true for everyone or just someone who came into a centi-million dollar inheritance. 

Lastly, Russia, are they friend or foe?  I'd categorize them as foe.

When it was announced that Trump had won the election, the Russian parliament cheered, clapped, and other wise celebrated.  Why do you think they're celebrating?  Do you think it's really because he respects Putin and relations going forward are going to be more constructive? 

Here's my analogy of their celebration.  I use to fence and in competition when my opponent is drawn and I learn he is a person that I've seen perform and know is no match for me.  I quietly let out a cheer and get high fives and smiles from my teammates.

Can you hold this same standard to Hillary also? Given what she has said and allegedly done; can you tell your kids she should be president? Would you hire Hillary to work at your company given that she misappropriated foundation money for her daughters education and wedding? Lied to the American people multiple times to cover up her crime or dereliction of duty (depending on what you believe she actually did)?

Absolutely!  I would be doing my kids an injustice if I led them to a conclusion or think what I believe they should think as opposed to show them where and how to look for information to allow themselves to draw their own conclusions. 

It's up to them to decide f those things that she allegedly did were as heinous as what Trump did/said he would do.  My 12 year old daughter had a multiple "T" account sheets on specific subjects and Hillary and Trump details. 


 

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