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Topic: Best braid to leader knot? FG? Albright? Bristol?  (Read 11097 times)

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barefoot1

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Gonna have to try this!
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Back to back uni is too big when you have a big fish on you have to dip your rod to get it through first guide... Thats enough to lose a fish. Not to mention it gets beat up going through the guides. Unis are easy to tie but they suck. And they break flouro on big fish.

I beg to disagree.. I've pulled a lot of big fish out of heavy kelp and never had a problem.
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Back to back uni is too big when you have a big fish on you have to dip your rod to get it through first guide... Thats enough to lose a fish. Not to mention it gets beat up going through the guides. Unis are easy to tie but they suck. And they break flouro on big fish.

 How many years have you been using the uni 2 uni on the salt? Ive been using that knot for a long time and have yet to break one. EVER. I got the fish to prove it too. LOL
« Last Edit: November 30, 2015, 09:00:53 PM by ravensblack »
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People of the Realm. :smt006

  I recently had this issue. Being a fly fisherman, my go to knot for connecting two line of different sizes was always a uni to uni knot, which worked great.  During recent striper excursions, inside the bay, i found out that braid does not last forever.  I spooled my bait cast reel with a different brand of braid and connected my leader with a uni-uni knot.  I lost a couple of lures because the knot was cutting my fluorocarbon. I changed to the albright, which also cut my line.  I discovered this new way of tying a kind of GT knot.  I was amazed that the breaking strength of the knot superseded the strength of the line of both lines.
The conclusions is that sometimes, one knot dose not work on all lines.  Tie the easiest knot, try to break it to  test the breaking strength of the knot.  Do it a few times.  Then work your way up to a harder knot.
  My knot broke at about 17lb when tying a uni-uni knot to my 25lb braid to 30lb fluorocarbon.  The albright broke at the knot at about 15lb.  The improved albright broke at the knot at about 20lb. I couldn't break the GT knot with the same ease that I was able to break the other knots.  After re-rigging to grip the line better, I was able to break the line, not at the knot, but at a weak point on the braid it at about 35lb.
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I've used that get knot even with superglue... I'll stick with the Albright instead. Two basic knots new fisherman  should learn is the Albright n palomar.
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Im talking about big fish that kick your ass more than lings... The uni works but it cuts flouro and is big. Big fish like this....


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Im talking about big fish that kick your ass more than lings... The uni works but it cuts flouro and is big. Big fish like this....


Nice!!! Have you ever caught a WSB?  :smt002



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I'm in favor of a well tied Albright as well.

My best catch to date on an Albright was on my bait rod.  6.6 Uglystik/Shimano Sienna 2500 spooled with 10# braid with 12 feet of 10# mono for tying on jigs.  Caught me a 43" 36.5# Bull redfish on my Hobie Revo with this rod while attempting to catch some bait fish.  This Albright knot was going on 3 years and many many trout, bass, panfish, black rockfish, lings up to 27" on it already. 

I was so impressed with this particular one knot, that when I had finally widdled my 10# mono down to needing to be replaced two years later, the knot was respectfully saved with about a foot of each line on either side left to show it off. 

It is now oddly hanging on my drill press in my garage for some reason.   8)
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Too many salmon are lost at the boat with braided line. No stretch. I would never troll with braided line. Mono all the way. I use 8 wraps of braid to 5 of the floro. Whatever works for each individual works. That GT looks pretty cool though. Im going to tie some.
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Agree that mono stretch helps to land salmon but no stretch braid often gives a better hook set on the strike. Probably six of one half a dozen of the other . For salmon I use 20 feet of 80# test mono connected to braid. Got some stretch and the mono allows a tired fish to be played by hand to gaff or net without line cuts in the hands.
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Jude

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Yeah ive caught wsb. I use 40lb mono for stretch on salmon. And ive always used a uni... No question it can work but it sucks in the guides. Hence me starting this topic.... Im looking for something better. I think the fg or gt is the ticket. I appreciate all the discussion.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2015, 03:49:16 PM by Jude »


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<snipped> ... I appreciate all the discussion.
Absolutely, me too! Thanks for putting this up, Jude. I'm gonna try some other knots and see what I like.
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Hey Bungle. Thanks for the video. I've used that knot for a couple years now, but never tied it that way. I always wrapped the criss crossing line over the tag end. (A pain to do that is tedious) but I always felt it was worth the effort for the superior knot result. An improvement on the finish is to throw in a half hitch to stop it from unraveling, but then finish it with a whip finish the same way they do on a bow string. First loop the braid tag and wrap it the opposite way 5-6 times then tie a uni in the opposite way you just wrapped the tag.(which unwinds the wraps you just put in) The end result is instead of back to back half hitches that can start to unravel one at a time, you have a "whip finished" just like a bow string or fly tie. It won't come undone and no need to glue it. The ultimate braid to mono knot. I'm going to practice the method in your video so I can do it in the field with ease. And finish it with my way...  :smt004


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The video Icalopes posted is how I've always tied it. In fact that's THE video I learned it from. I like the "new way of tying it tho. No doubt it is the THE strongest lowest profile knot you can tie. I spent an entire day one time. Tying about fifty knots to do my own tests. I always tied two different knots in line to test which one survived the breaking point. The other end was tied to a large eyebolt in a post. With gloved hands I pulled until it snapped. Several reties of the same knots to be sure. Hands down the GT knot prevailed. I think it broke first one time and that was probably because I didn't tie it well. It also glides through the guides better than any other knot. It works like a Chinese finger cuff. The more you pull the more it grips the mono. Another little modification you can do is. Leave a short tag in the mono. then hold it up pulling the braid down out of the way. Lower a lighted lighter to it. This forms a tiny ball on the end of the mono, ensuring a no slip connection.


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Great thread, this will give me something to do this winter, practice,practice,practice until it becomes second nature.  :smt003
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